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To: annalex; jo kus
The primary effect of grace is the ability to repent, and the Holy Spirit is the source of grace. Whenever a sinner repented individually, prior to the Pentecost, it was an extraordinary operation of the Holy Spirit in him.

I'm not sure what you are implying that changed at Pentecost in this regard, but I do agree with you. My position is that the Holy Spirit can affect us whether He is currently indwelling or not.

5,356 posted on 09/03/2007 9:31:18 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; jo kus
what you are implying that changed at Pentecost

Prior to the Pentecost the Holy Spirit made His work on an extraordinary basis, and at Pentecost the promise of Christ to send the Paraclete to His Church was fulfilled, and the extraordinary presence became ordinary indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the Church.

5,393 posted on 09/04/2007 9:28:36 AM PDT by annalex
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