[D-fendr]

And to make this work in TULIP, you require that there "ARE NO innocent children."

The next trick is how God avoids a millstone around His neck.

[Forest Keeper]

And to make this work in TULIP, you require that there "ARE NO innocent children." The next trick is how God avoids a millstone around His neck.

I'm not sure how the millstone reference applies here. Those verses condemn one who cause a child believer to sin. How does that fit in here?

And as for the TULIP, the only thing I can think of is your disputing total depravity. As I said, is original sin enough to condemn or not?