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To: kosta50
The Protestants who believe in the pre-existence of the souls simply say that God ordained some to hell and some to heaven, then created all the souls, and predestined each human being with an "appropriate" ready-made soul, which is pulled off the heavenly storage shelf and "plugged" in at the moment of conception, or perhaps even at some other moment.

From their mindset, it is perfectly just and proper for God to do that (neglecting to acknowledge that it is not characteristic of the revealed God in our lord Jesus Christ).

Moreover, the Reformed (Calvinists) cannot assume that a baby is innocent because the soul of the baby is already dead in sin.

Does anyone have any evidence for these strange comments that appear to be condemning innocent newborns to hell sight unseen?

I tend to avoid the Religion Forum, so I am not up on the latest interpretations here. But, I have to say condemning newborns to hell before they have a chance to do good or ill seems like pure bilge to me.

5,172 posted on 09/01/2007 10:40:37 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
[.. I tend to avoid the Religion Forum, so I am not up on the latest interpretations here. But, I have to say condemning newborns to hell before they have a chance to do good or ill seems like pure bilge to me. ..]

You believe what you want believe.. some religionists are that way too.. You must be ignorant on the death of those not at the age of consent.. i.e child vs. adult..

5,174 posted on 09/01/2007 11:22:35 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Coyoteman
Does anyone have any evidence for these strange comments that appear to be condemning innocent newborns to hell sight unseen?

The "evidence" is, of course, the Bible, or better yet their interpretation of it, since not all who use the Bible arrive at the same conclusion.  They would answer you that none of us is innocent (even at birth), but "filthy rags" (one of their favorite quotes).

I tend to avoid the Religion Forum, so I am not up on the latest interpretations here. But, I have to say condemning newborns to hell before they have a chance to do good or ill seems like pure bilge to me

They will tell you that no one can do any good until he is "born again" and has an "indwelling spirit." You can take it from there...

5,177 posted on 09/01/2007 11:45:34 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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