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And no one here is "unaware" of heretical errors. On the contrary, we have God's word specifically showing us right and wrong.

You just proved my point. Heretics of all time have claimed exactly the same thing, as St. Vinent of Lerins pointed out [here] in the fifth century.

You think you are special. You have the Scriptures, and therefore, you think that unlike all those other heretics of the past 2,000 years, you won't get it wrong. Of course, that's exactly what they all thought.

But God did give us His word and show us His will in Scripture. And in that Scripture we are told that the Holy Spirit will guide our understanding of it

How's that working out for you all? How many thousands of denominations are you up to now? I already pointed out to you in #237 that in your own view, the success rate for interpreting Scripture correctly is less than .005%. So, what kind of job is the Holy Spirit doing? You are essentially accusing the Holy Spirit of doing an extremely lousy job.

The fruits of our lives are good and plentiful, just as God promised in Scripture

Did God promise division upon divison to be a fruit of the Holy Spirit? Or is peace (i.e. reconciliation and unity) a fruit of the Spirit?

Why do you quote Calvin, as if Scripture is insufficient? What authority does Calvin have?

-A8

Sorry, A8, but at the heart of every one of your posts is the denial of the Holy Spirit. Somehow you feel more comfortable tying yourself to an archaic, decrepit magisterium which has shown itself to be misguided and riddled with error. Two billion dollars in payouts to redress the sexual deviance of the RCC priesthood should tell anyone with eyes to see that the tree of Rome is corrupt.

The fact that some heretics site Scripture in defense of their heresies does not in any way negate the truth of Scripture and its correct understanding via the Holy Spirit. The devil quotes Scripture. Does that mean I cannot understand the difference between correct teaching and lies?

The RCC (and thus you as we've seen here) can't argue from the Scriptures because your beliefs are so contrary to the Scriptures.

So all you can do is say "prove it." We "prove it" the same way Paul proved it -- by examining our lives in light of the word of God.

"Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you.
For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates." -- 2 Corinthians 13:3-6