[MarkBsnr]

Ah, the old Catholic Church, the curmudgeon, the fastidious, the cranky, the true.

All of the Reformers cannot by example go to heaven because there are woeful sinners amongst them.

We have had many devout Protestant serial killers; do they go to Heaven? The Catholic Church may be odd man out, but that only goes to illustrate that the Reformation was wrong, is dangerous spiritually, and has claimed more souls for satan than any other enterprise since time began.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Go back to Scripture Mark, and learn the truth. It was good enough for Calvin and Luther and Wycliffe and millions of other reformers, and it’s good enough for me.

[kosta50]

Of course they do, Mark! Protestantism is based on the DEformed theology that God paid our bills we owe to God for sins, and we got off like some celebrity. That's why Luther says he could commit 1,000 murders/fornications a day and still be saved.

I think it must be really comforting for many a former Nazi family member to know that, no matter what they did during WWII, their loved ones are in heaven.

You have to understand that Reformed theology is a legal creation. It is based on rationalizations if not on naked rationalism, and not on love. In their mind, no matter how bad their client might be, they can always get him off the hook.

They take Matthew (12:37) as gospel

"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

So, no matter what you do, you can be saved if you say the magic formula.

And here I thought they believed one is justifed by faith alone.