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To: kosta50; wmfights; MarkBsnr
FK, lobotomizing was never good. It was 'curative' in a very undesirable way.

Agreed, so what does it have to do with this conversation? I've never heard a Christian complain about God changing his heart.

If God changes our heart without our participation or desire, it is forced.

Yes, and the bad part is ...? If one believed that hell would be a preferable alternative in order to maintain his free will, then perhaps a curative action was indicated in the first place. :)

We don't go around snatching McDonald's burgers our of fat people's hands just because obesity is unhealthy, do we? Do we arrest smokers because their habits are disgusting?

Stay tuned for a Democrat administration coming soon to a theater near you. They certainly use the law, i.e. the tax code, to change behaviors they do not like. It's bad that they do it because they really do not have the moral authority to do so. God, OTOH, DOES have the moral authority to change people without them having asked first.

4,186 posted on 08/25/2007 2:22:02 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

I suspect that the enthusiasm for the benevolent tyrant philosophy of God is entirely coincidental with the idea that those who espouse it also believe that they are of the elect.

If there is no choice, then how can one sin?


4,188 posted on 08/25/2007 2:31:57 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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