[kosta50]

If we cannot make choices, we are robot slaves. There’s really no other conclusion. Either we are free to accept God or we are not. If we are not free, then we are controlled. If we are controlled, then we cannot sin, since sin results from wrong choices, not from following a computer program

Believe it or not, Mark, all this has been rehashed many times over on these threads. To no avail. The so-called Reformed are the ones who say that others are "blind" and "deaf" yet it is them who cannot see the plain truth.

Unless you can work miracles, the best thing to do is to leave them and pray that they be healed and comprehend that plain truth, because I still believe it is not their reason but spiritual pathology that drives them.

[MarkBsnr]

I should put up a topic here in which we ask people if they believe that they are of the elect; if they KNOW that they’re going to heaven.

Unfortunately, I suspect that the responses would be less than enthusiastic; formerly I had asked about things like frequency of prayer and actual physical worship amongst our Protestant brethren and to an individual, they all declined to contribute.

I suspect that the veneer of their worship is relatively thin, as is the rock of their faith. If they had something to gloat about, I suspect that the contributions would have been both frequent and voluminous.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

the best thing to do is to leave them and pray that they be healed and comprehend that plain truth, because I still believe it is not their reason but spiritual pathology that drives them.

LOL. Well, you're half-right. What drives us is spiritual, but it represents the best of health. We know whom we have believed.

"I create the fruit of the lips" -- Isaiah 57:19

All glory to God.