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To: wmfights; Cronos; hosepipe; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; betty boop
In the RCC do you believe the HOLY SPIRIT indwells believers, or is it the church that is filled with the HOLY SPIRIT?

The Catholic Church teaches that the Holy Spirit is imparted to the baptized person through Confirmation, that is by the laying on of hands.

On another thread I was urging my brothers and sisters in Christ who call themselves Catholic to give God the glory for the baptism in the Holy Spirit.

Which is to say, Jesus Christ baptizes in the Holy Spirit and He is given according to God's will even when hands haven't been laid, the recipient hasn't been baptized or even heard the full Gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That was the lesson of Cornelius - repeated three times in Scripture thus underscoring the importance:

While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? – Acts 10:44-47

And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as [he did] unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? – Acts 11:15-17

And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men [and] brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as [he did] unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? – Acts 15:7-10

To God be the glory!

4,037 posted on 08/24/2007 9:17:47 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; wmfights
[.. Which is to say, Jesus Christ baptizes in the Holy Spirit and He is given according to God's will even when hands haven't been laid, the recipient hasn't been baptized or even heard the full Gospel of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That was the lesson of Cornelius - repeated three times in Scripture thus underscoring the importance: ..]

Exactly.. I have known christians that accepted christ out somewhere "under a tree" on their own and was "saved".. or regenerated.. The Holy Spirit is ALIVE and is subject to no club to hamper his work.. The Holy Spirit needs NO clergy or clubs.. Any clergy needs the Holy Spirit.. if they are clergy indeed in the first place.. many maybe MOST are NOT.. The Holy SPirit appoints and "gifts" "church" officials.. A club cannot DO THAT..

Denomination of the Body of Christ is a perceived mirage..
And a fleshy pursuit..

4,046 posted on 08/24/2007 9:44:49 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Cronos; hosepipe; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; betty boop
The Catholic Church teaches that the Holy Spirit is imparted to the baptized person through Confirmation, that is by the laying on of hands.

Do they believe that the Holy Spirit will leave the believer if they don't do specific things?

4,047 posted on 08/24/2007 9:45:21 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Fairly said. That is our Sacrament, as the link indicated.

However, the fact that Jesus can call down the Holy Spirit on whomever He wishes does not alter the fact that the Church was instructed to call down the Holy Spirit via an authorized member of the Church laying on hands and asking for it to happen.


4,057 posted on 08/24/2007 10:19:11 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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