me: "So now you are bearing false witness.”
Kolo: "I take it that’s a no?
Where did you get the idea that I believe that in the first place? You state it as if it were a fact, when in fact you are making it up from whole cloth, which amounts to slander, bearing false witness, and a dishonest misrepresentation.
It's not uncommon for dishonest debaters to employ tactics such as attributing something to another poster, when in fact they have indicated nothing of the kind.
This is attributing something to me that I have never indicated, by questioninig whether I "really believe", indicating that I have professed that belief at some time:
do you really believe that Eve and Satan had sex which resulted in Cain?
In fact, it is a dishonest misrepresentation, amounting to slander.
Kolo, either you can produce any quote from me in which I profess or indicate a belief in the Satan's seed heresy, as you have attributed to me, or retract your comments with apology. If not, then it will be sure that you are not a person of integrity, honesty or honor.
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Religion Moderator: I only ping you because of the seriousness of questioning of what "Kolo" purports to be my belief in something which has been made up from whole cloth, and the strong comments I make in reply to that slanderous, dishonest misrepresentation, so that you know I have nothing to hide.
Do you believe in the serpent seed idea- that eve had intercourse with satan and produced cain?
I simple yes or no will clear this up.
Please answer yes or no.
“Kolo, either you can produce any quote from me in which I profess or indicate a belief in the Satan’s seed heresy, as you have attributed to me, or retract your comments with apology. If not, then it will be sure that you are not a person of integrity, honesty or honor.”
MLG, I have attributed nothing to you save very questionable, innovative theology for which you have provided ample evidence from an Orthodox pov. I have no idea at all if you believe that Eve and Satan had intercourse and produced Cain. The question I asked and about which you are complaining was one which had been asked several times of you by one or more other posters. To the best of knowledge you never answered the question. I don’t take that to be an indication of anything other than that for reasons sufficient to you you have chosen not to answer. Similarly, MLG, you should assume nothing because questions are asked of you. They are only questions, implying nothing. That sort of thing happens here.
This is an open thread, MLG. As I have noted before, its no place for sissies. I am not even remotely sorry that you are offended that I and one or more other posters asked you a question about your beliefs. There are all sorts of beliefs on FR that any of a number of us find odd, silly, heretical, even blasphemous. There’s little reticence about calling a spade a spade on these threads.
But, since you’ve made such an issue of that silly question, will you answer the question? If you won’t, just say so. :)
M_L_G
I haven’t followed all the conversation but as I was skimming I did cross this one. Our friend Kolo and I have had many discussions and I can personally vouch that his intentions are of the most admirable quality. While Kolo and I have had our share of disagreements, I have never know Kolo to show the slightest disrespect for, let alone slander anyone.
Kolo didn't attribute anything to you Missey. You are making a straw man. He simply asked you a question, which you culd have answered as "yes" or "know" or "I don't know." One of our Catholic posters asked Kolo and me if we believed in Purgatory. Was that "slanderous?" Of course not.
The rules are clear. If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen. Open forums are open. If you prefer like-minded people stay with coccus posts which are, as the RM explained, "safe" from opposing views.
RM is busy reading all our post, and is doing a great job keeping us in line, within rules (which are fair and apply to all equally). Please cease this nonsense of "telling" on people every time someone asks you a question.