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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; kosta50
I must agree with FK that this is one of the most baffling things that I have come across. From you website this writer does a very poor job of explaining the case for hell not exisiting. He states:

Lazarrus is dining at a feast while the rich man is in flaming torment. He is in pain but God is not punishing him??? Quite frankly, does this make any sense???

As FK stated, once again the author's argument is that "Nobody really understand Greek like the Greeks." This is a rather lame excuse. I'm sure there have been several non-Greek scholars throughout the ages that could understand Greek just as I'm sure Martha Stewart could whip up a great Greek dinner.

The author also uses St. Ignatius as if Ignatius was confirming that he did not believe in a hell. What absolute tripe! Here is what St. Ignatius has to say on the subject:

It's pretty bad when people distort not only the word of God but what the fathers had to say on certain matters. Too bad the Internet allows us to verify these claims.

The author never addresses the numerous places where our Lord Jesus talks about the fiery pits of hell and how people will be sent there. The argument that "it's not talked about in the Old Testament." doesn't wash because Christians use the whole canon to get the complete picture-not just the old. The fact that our Lord (not John, James, Peter or Paul) talked about hell more than anything else should confirm the fact there is such a place.

In a way Kolo is right. People wouldn't be so quick to embrace ecumenicalism if the truly understood the differences.

10,444 posted on 11/05/2007 5:07:49 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
I'm sure there have been several non-Greek scholars throughout the ages that could understand Greek just as I'm sure Martha Stewart could whip up a great Greek dinner.

Harley, you just made my day!

10,447 posted on 11/05/2007 5:45:42 AM PST by suzyjaruki (Why?)
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To: HarleyD; Forest Keeper; kosta50

“...just as I’m sure Martha Stewart could whip up a great Greek dinner.”

I sincerely doubt that, HD!

I’m at the office and have a busy day ahead, but this whole discussion could become very interesting; more tonight with any luck. In haste, however, I can understand your vehemence. If Orthodoxy is correct, its good bye to all that “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” phronema of the West. The opposite, of course, is also true.

“In a way Kolo is right. People wouldn’t be so quick to embrace ecumenicalism if the truly understood the differences.”

No “in a way” about it, HD.


10,451 posted on 11/05/2007 6:16:42 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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