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To: kosta50; HarleyD; Kolokotronis
You can exist and be dead, FK. Existence and death are not mutually exclusive. If you are created you exist. If you are given life you live. If you lose it, you still exist but you are no longer alive.

OK, this confirms my original hypothesis. You only consider mortality as regards destination. But if so, then this raises another issue. :) At what point does a mortal soul become immortal? All I know is that you have said it is "by grace" which we must accept. This appears to raise a problem since I think it is the Orthodox view that the vast majority of the saved do not reach theosis during physical life. If that is true, and the immortal soul is determined by accepting grace, then when does this happen? Can a person' mortal soul be transformed into an immortal soul, only to revert back again to a mortal soul?

10,438 posted on 11/04/2007 7:50:16 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; HarleyD; Kolokotronis
OK, this confirms my original hypothesis. You only consider mortality as regards destination

No, FK, death is a state.

At what point does a mortal soul become immortal?

When it is restored by grace.

I think it is the Orthodox view that the vast majority of the saved do not reach theosis during physical life. If that is true, and the immortal soul is determined by accepting grace, then when does this happen?

Grace is given. We are made alive and immortal through God's grace and nothing we do merits it.

Can a person' mortal soul be transformed into an immortal soul, only to revert back again to a mortal soul?

We can always fall form grace by rejecting God. Adam and Eve did. We are their offspring, their nature.

10,450 posted on 11/05/2007 6:02:50 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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