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To: HarleyD

“I don’t know anywhere in scripture that says we will become God.”

Its (theosis) a hard concept to explain in English. Try reading +Athanasius the Great On the Incarnation. Its full of scriptural references. In the meantime, look at John 10:34-35, I Cor. 15:28; I Cor.12.27; Genesis 1:27; Rom. 8:15-17; Rom. 8:29; I Peter 4:6; John 14:12. The list goes on, HD. For me, I think Genesis 1:27 lays it right out and fully explains what is meant by the later scriptures. For us to become by grace what Christ is by nature is the whole point, HD.

“Yes, the soul is immortal.”

Oh, I was afraid you would say that. That, HD is one of the earliest and most deadly of heresies. All sorts of error stems from it, as Origen, among others found out. The human soul is not at all immortal by nature. Immortality is a gift offered by God which we can accept or reject as rational and free creatures. I thought that Calvinism might, given its theology, of necessity hold with the idea that the soul is immortal.


10,340 posted on 11/03/2007 5:19:46 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; HarleyD

“”I think Genesis 1:27 lays it right out and fully explains what is meant by the later scriptures. For us to become by grace what Christ is by nature is the whole point, HD.””

Matthew 5:48 spells this out very clearly as well

Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.(Matt 5:48 Douay Rheims)

This is our Christian goal.It does not make us equal to God because only God can give Grace, it allows us to be in union with God, so He can use our human nature .


10,341 posted on 11/03/2007 7:58:06 AM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Kolokotronis
Try reading +Athanasius the Great On the Incarnation. Its full of scriptural references. In the meantime, look at ...

That, HD is one of the earliest and most deadly of heresies. All sorts of error stems from it, as Origen, among others found out. The human soul is not at all immortal by nature. Immortality is a gift offered by God which we can accept or reject as rational and free creatures.


10,343 posted on 11/03/2007 9:04:41 AM PDT by HarleyD
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