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To: Forest Keeper; Diva; OLD REGGIE; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; jo kus; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
OK, this I didn't know (although I found quite a few websites that called Origen a Father

Catholic or Orthodox sites? If so, they are sadly mistaken.

While this seems to say that they were not technically Fathers, I still find it interesting how much influence they DID have over actual Fathers, even though they were "tinged with heresy"

Not so, FK. Orgien was orthodox for about half of his life as a priest. The same with Tertullian and Montanus, and others. Many of their early works were every which way orthodox. It is only when they slipped into heresy (for instance Origne taught Gnostic pre-existence of the souls as he slipped ever deeper into Gnostic error). Whole churches slipped into such errors (the Copts for instance) because of these men. How can they be orthodox Fathers of the (Holy catholic and apostolic Church?)

10,330 posted on 11/02/2007 5:16:45 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Diva; OLD REGGIE; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; jo kus; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; ...
Catholic or Orthodox sites? If so, they are sadly mistaken.

From what I remember they were Catholic-leaning. Plus, the Wiki entry for "Church Fathers" would be all wrong by what you said.

FK: "While this seems to say that they were not technically Fathers, I still find it interesting how much influence they DID have over actual Fathers, even though they were "tinged with heresy"

Not so, FK. ...... Whole churches slipped into such errors (the Copts for instance) because of these men. How can they be orthodox Fathers of the (Holy catholic and apostolic Church?)

I acknowledged that they were NOT technically Fathers. All I did was note that they had great influence over some who WERE actual Fathers. The quote from New Advent clearly says this.

10,335 posted on 11/02/2007 8:01:57 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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