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To: MarkBsnr
How do I know what is to be kept and what is to be discarded?

You - :::The Eastern Fathers, absolutely all of them, and Westerners before Augustine, and even after him, saw that there is no reprobation...

You - Umm, the Eastern Fathers did believed in earned reprobation

Almighty God has justified all men;:::All men, not just the lottery winners. Calvin would not have written that.

Augustine was in error and he recognized it.

Calvin quotes Augustinian error. He doesn’t quote Augustine overly much when he is in line with Church teachings, does he?


10,253 posted on 11/01/2007 11:14:07 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

:::The Eastern Fathers, absolutely all of them, and Westerners before Augustine, and even after him, saw that there is no reprobation, not even negative, except in consideration of demerits. :::

You’ve gotta complete the sentence. It’s all that cherry picking of Scripture that you guys do, I guess. :)

The Western Fathers were not mixed; Augustine was the only one who wandered into this thought.

:::If you divorced yourself from your paradigm for one minute, then you would understand that “God justifies all men” can only mean God justifies those who are saved.:::

I don’t know about that. “God justifies all men” as a standalone phrase would seem to mean just that. Unless the Reformed use “all men” and “all elected men” interchangeably.

:::That is why he recalled his books and wrote the Treatise of Predestination:::

???


10,255 posted on 11/01/2007 12:40:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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