Nah, colic's nothing. We're talking Totally Depraved here...
Posted on 07/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by xzins
Furthermore one thing that all the prophets reveal to us, over and over and over, is that God is sensitive and cares deeply about His creation. I don't know about you, but I often apologize to Him for all my stupidity, and it's great, I assure you
Amen!
"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus." -- Ephesians 2:4-7"Because thy lovingkindness is better than life, my lips shall praise thee." -- Psalm 63:3
Nah, colic's nothing. We're talking Totally Depraved here...
There's lots about both. The elect ARE His sheep. In addition,:
34 Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
Who else could possibly be referred to except the elect? He's talking to the sheep.
Question for you: Do you believe ‘the Bride’ will be amongst this sheep and goats sorting?
How about pride?
I have no idea about the numbers. Personally, I'm a post-millenialist, and I believe one day the world will be over-run with confident, slap-happy Christians.
But I don't believe God loves everyone, or else that perfect love would make everyone His children and Christ said He will lose none of those whom God has given to Him.
So those who are condemned for their sins are not His children. And those who are acquitted of their sins by Christ are His children. One day you and I will know exactly who makes up those two categories, but today we have only a man's fruit to know him by (keeping in mind that "whatsoever is not of faith is sin.")
But regarding the wheat and the chaff, this is what God has to say...
"...he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD." -- Jeremiah 23:28
As noted before, none of us knows for certain who is chaff and who is wheat, so we are to look after each other and preach the Gospel to all men, confident that God gives ears to hear to all His children.
Patty McCormack was the creepiest movie kid villian in history.
Amen!
And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them." -- John 17:9-10"I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
It is said of Jesus that he took upon Him flesh and thus for a time was lower than the Angels and obedient even to the death of the Cross. Since we are bound by our flesh, we are indeed a little lower than the Angels. BUT, through His Spirit we are transformed to higher than powers and principalities. ( Philippians 2:8
)</p>1 Psalms 8:5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
2 Hebrews 2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
3 Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
John 14:26, “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” John 16:13-14...“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.”
You know, if that's all there is, then we could have skipped 1,300 years of miracles...
In order to understand Romans 6, it is necessary to go back to the first chapter and see how Paul goes.
Rom 1:1 Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God
Slave of Christ Jesus: Paul applies the term slave to himself in order to express his undivided allegiance to the Lord of the church, the Master of all, including slaves and masters. “No one can serve (i.e., be a slave to) two masters,” said Jesus (Matthew 6:24). It is this aspect of the slave-master relationship rather than its degrading implications that Paul emphasizes when he discusses Christian commitment.
Rom 6:17 But thanks be to God that, although you were once slaves of sin, you have become obedient from the heart to the pattern of teaching to which you were entrusted.
In contrast to humanity, which was handed over to self-indulgence (Romans 1:24-32), believers are now willingly entrusted to God’s pattern of teaching, that is, the new life God aims to develop in Christians through the productivity of the holy Spirit. Throughout this passage Paul uses the slave-master model in order to emphasize the fact that one cannot give allegiance to both God and sin.
Addiction to vice is akin to slavery to the body; to make the choice to cleave to God is obviously not true slavery. Paul is merely using a literary device to make his point.
Duly noted. Thanks.
You have been more than fair. I’d say good to excellent. But that’s just one man’s opinion.
An emotional God?
How emotional?
All of it, or only the elect? Isn’t it Reformed doctrine that only the elect matter and everybody else can go to hell?
Well, unless I stock up on Guinness on the way home, I’ll be Totally Deprived tonight.
Bahhh.
The identification of the sheep and the goats is as clear as a sunny day in the Arctic. The sheep are those who have done His will and the goats are those who have not.
If you say that only those who have done His will are the elect, then perhaps we can take this discussion a little further on what constitutes the elect and who on Earth can do His will. And who cannot.
Are you identifying the Church as His Bride?
Since the Church is the hands and the mouth of the Lord on Earth, if Earth passes away, and all are Judged; I don’t suppose that there will be any requirement for Her at that point.
Perfect emotions, guided by perfect thoughts.
An unemotional God would be a thing, not a person.
The Godhead is a triune God, three persons, each with intellect, sensiblity and will, united in one essence.
Okay, let’s discount the numbers.
Is God dispassionate about those that he sends to hell?
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