Posted on 07/22/2007 7:40:38 PM PDT by xzins
I really am answering you in what I hope is the most effective way to communicate it.
Sorry typo at the critical point:
Further, as you read, you start to get the feeling that you aren’t getting the same father from reading that you know.
The question is: What are all the possible reasons for this feeling of disconnection?
I bet you can guess my answer to that one.
And it's your turn.
Yet the Book of Genesis 6:6 tells us that God "grieved" (NIV) or "was sorry" (NAB) or "repented" (KJV) for having made man.
That doesn't square with your statement. But I fully agree with it! It's the Book of Genesis that is error when it portrays God as regretting His own action.
Not sure about your question. I am fully satisfied with my Father being in charge of my life, Father knows best :>)
Nothing in my statement that disagrees with Gen. 6:6.
If I built a car from scratch, used it, took care of it, and eventually found it was time to put it on the scrap heap, I may have regretted having to do so, I may even regretted having built it in the first place, but it wasn’t wrong to build it, nor was it wrong to destroy it. It was mine to do as I wished.
To set a limit to man's freedom lest he believe he knows and has a right to everyting and believes he is just like 'god.'
You weren't in the question, but there's a place for you in it:
You're the stranger who the son tells, "There's something about what I'm reading about my father that doesn't make sense to me."
You reply to him: "I read the book, it makes sense to me."
What's the son reply?
That's just plain contrary to what Genesis tells us. He creates every human in His image. He set mans eparate from the rets of the Creation.
***That’s just plain contrary to what Genesis tells us. ***
It’s not contrary to what scripture says.
First, God doesn't "find out" at some point...God is transcendental. Genesis clearly says that God regretted for having made man on earth (I just don't understand why he had to drown all the animals too!). It suggests that mankind somehow didn't turn out the way it was supposed to be. But if God is in control, then there is no chance of that, and neither is there a reason for "repentance."
Second, your reason is non-sequitur. Why would God "feel bad" about scrapping humanity when humanity turned out so wicked? What is there to regret? Not a chance.
Third, if everything is done according to God's will then it was God's will that mankind become wicked, so then He must regret His own decisions. Again, not a chance if God is in control.
Ergo, Genesis 6:6 is in error. It claims something that cannot be.
Now, we can read it metaphorically, but that's a whole other ball of wax.
If you really want to be scriptural, the "sons of God" in the OT refers only to angles. Man is referred to as "son of man" (ben adam).
The whole idea that God has "His" people and rejects others comes from Judaism. The original 'elect' are the Jews and no one else. Sorry to burst your bubble: if you believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, then you are not the 'elect' unless you are Jew.
Interesting. You are claiming that the Bible is in error. I will suppose that either God was wrong, or your concept is wrong. The Bible is not wrong. God is not wrong. Therefore...
But if you believe that the Bible is wrong, who cares what you believe. I will trust the Bible.
You have plenty of answers already. You don't need mine, even if I could give you them.
You have the answer to all the questions you ask. It's not answers that you lack, it's questions.
So I'm giving you more.
:)
And in the same breath you will tell us that the fact that THOUSANDS of your Roman Catholic pedophile/homosexual priests have had sex with YOUR OWN CHILDREN (and each other) says nothing against the Roman Catholic faith. Fascinating. So Manson, who is not a Christian, let alone a Reformer, is somehow a testimony against the Reformed faith, but your own priests say NOTHING about your faith. Interesting logic. :)
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These [are] the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man [and] perfect in his generations, [and] Noah walked with God. And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. – Genesis 6:1-12
Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven. As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. – I Cor 15:42-50
There is no error in Genesis 6. But all attempts to rationalize God lead to error:
Thank you, good post.
Well done, lady.
And in the conclusion of AG’s post, there is one of the possible answers to the book question - an error in the reader.
And with the one already given, that’s two.
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