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To: rbosque
>I am perplexed that you and others insist that you know more about our Catholic faith than we Catholics do. These threads serve no other purpose other than to throw mud at the Church. I suggest you pick up a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It is inspired by the Holy Spirit. It is certainly not a book written by professional anti-Catholics with an ax to grind. So before you or others accuse the Church of ‘not beling Christian’, please pick up a copy- it only costs about $9 bucks. This will help you understand my faith instead of blindly throwing stones at the Church. <

I find it interesting that when you are confronted by scripture you run and switch subjects.I would like you to show me where I have done this”I am perplexed that you and others insist that you know more about our Catholic faith than we Catholics do”.

Or show me where I have done this”So before you or others accuse the Church of “not beling Christian”

Or this”This will help you understand my faith instead of blindly throwing stones at the Church.”

If you can’t do this I expect an apology but it will be like every other question I have posed to you in that if you don’t have a script that answers the question you switch subjects.

I would suggest you spend a week reading the New Testament “God’s inspired word”through after asking the Holy Spirit to let you see the truth of these scriptures.

337 posted on 07/17/2007 6:55:30 AM PDT by Blessed
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To: Blessed

I don’t ‘run’ fom scripture, Even the devil knows it.

Go back and read the topic of this thread...

“Pope Asserts Catholic Primacy”.

I am the one who has made the point and proved it. It is you who and others who have used this thread to bash the Catholic Church and are off-topic. The Bible is a Catholic book and you are attempting to disprove the Catholic Church by throwing Scripture at me ???

Pope Benedict has said NOTHING new...

“It is the church which perfect truth perfects. The church of believers is great, and its bosom most ample; it embraces the fullness of the two Testaments.” Ephraem, Against Heresies (ante A.D. 373).

“Wherefore all other generations are strangers to truth; all the generations of heretics hold not the truth: the church alone, with pious affection, is in possession of the truth.” Ambrose, Commentary of Psalm 118,19 (A.D. 388).

” ‘So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by Epistle of ours.’ Hence it is manifest, that they did not deliver all things by Epistle, but many things also unwritten, and in like manner both the one and the other are worthy of credit. Therefore let us think the tradition of the Church also worthy of credit. It is a tradition, seek no farther.” John Chrysostom, Homily on 2nd Thessalonians, 4:2 (A.D. 404).

“My resolution is, to read the ancients, to try everything, to hold fast what is good, and not to recede from the faith of the Catholic Church.” Jerome, To Minervius & Alexander, Epistle 119 (A.D. 406).

St. Cyprian (205-258 AD)
“Whence you ought to know that the bishop is in the Church, and the Church in the bishop; and if any one be not with the bishop, that he is not in the Church, and that those flatter themselves in vain who creep in, not having peace with God’s priests, and think that they communicate secretly with some; while the Church, which is Catholic and one, is NOT CUT NOR DIVIDED, but is indeed connected and bound together by the cement of priests who cohere with one another.”
Epistle LXVIII-8, to Florentius Pupianus

“Let the lapsed, however, who acknowledge the greatness of their sin, not depart from entreating the Lord, nor forsake the Catholic Church, which has been appointed one and alone by the Lord; but, continuing in their atonements and entreating thee”
Epistle LXIII-5, to Epictetus

St. Augustine (354-430 AD)
“By the same word, by the same Sacrament you were born, but YOU WILL NOT come to the same inheritance of eternal life, unless you return to the Catholic Church.”
Sermons, 3, 391 A.D.

“What the soul is to man’s body, the Holy Spirit is to the Body of Christ, which is the Church. The Holy Spirit does in the whole Church what the soul does in all members of one body. But see what you must beware of, see what you must take note of, see what you must fear. It happens that in the human body, or rather, off the body, some member, whether hand, finger, or foot, may be cut away. And if a member be cut off, does the soul go with it? When the member was in the body, it lived; and off, its life is lost. So too, a Christian man is Catholic while he lives in the body; cut off, he is made a heretic; the Spirit does not follow an amputated member.”
Sermons, 267, 4, 391-430 A.D.

St. Jerome (347-420 AD)
“Heretics bring sentence upon themselves since they by their own choice withdraw from the Church, a withdrawal which, since they are aware of it, constitutes damnation.”
Commentaries on the Epistle to Titus, 376 A.D. 3,10 J1371a

“He slays a heretic who allows him to be a heretic. But when we rebuke him we give him life; you may die to your heresy, and live to the Catholic faith.”
Against the Pelagians, 417 A.D., book III-17

Paul admonished those who refuse to accept the authority given to the Church and warns what will happen to them if they refuse in Rom 13:1-2, “Let everyone be subject to the higher authorities, for THERE EXISTS NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT FROM GOD, AND THOSE WHO EXIST HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY GOD. Therefore HE WHO RESISTS THE AUTHORITY RESISTS THE ORDINANCE OF GOD; AND THEY THAT RESIST BRING ON THEMSELVES CONDEMNATION.”

“I laid the foundation, and another builds thereon. But let everyone take care how he builds thereon, for other foundations NO ONE CAN LAY, but that which has been laid, which is Jesus Christ.” 1Cor 3:10-11.

In John 10:16, Jesus said, “...and there shall be one fold and ONE SHEPHERD.”

The Church was founded by Christ on Peter for a reason. Jesus didn’t order anyone to write the Bible. What saved people before there were Bibles were printed was the Catholic Church, and She continues to save.


338 posted on 07/17/2007 8:19:55 AM PDT by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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