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To: f150sound

I see the RC freepers are in their full “it doesn’t mean what is says” spin mode. Which is always their fall back position when their true arrogance is exposed by their leaders.


60 posted on 07/10/2007 9:17:49 AM PDT by Iowegian
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To: Iowegian
I see the RC freepers are in their full “it doesn’t mean what is says” spin mode.

It does mean what it says. You just have to be willing to actually read it.

69 posted on 07/10/2007 9:21:08 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Iowegian

The RC Freepers also ran to dadday moderaters because the non RC Freepers are making fun of them and we need censorship.


75 posted on 07/10/2007 9:24:14 AM PDT by pacelvi
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To: Iowegian
I see the RC freepers are in their full “it doesn’t mean what is says” spin mode.

It means exactly what it says: that the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church alone is the one, true Church of Jesus Christ.

That's exactly the same thing every Catholic says every Sunday when he recites the Nicene Creed.

Some people on this thread are trying to twist it to say that the Pope is saying non-Catholics are not Christians.

That is not the teaching.

Anyone who is validly baptized - be they Baptist or Lutheran or Methodist or Greek Orthodox - is a Christian.

However, the organizations they belong to are not the Church. Their baptism makes them Christians, not their membership in an SBC congregation, or the Missouri Synod, or what have you.

93 posted on 07/10/2007 9:35:38 AM PDT by wideawake
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Here’s what the Catechism says:


All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.”

Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth” are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: “the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements.”

Christ’s Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him, and are in themselves calls to “Catholic unity.”


Now if anyone -— without even having read the document, sheesh! -— wants to argue that the Pope has chucked all that Catechism stuff and now believes otherwise: (long pause)

Friend, you are mistaken.


211 posted on 07/10/2007 12:19:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarfication.)
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To: Iowegian
This is called "poisoning the well". The accusation is, in your opinion, its own proof. Consequently any effort to correct the account presented by the Drive-by media must be "spin", since the charge is unquestionably true.

So I guess you are here not to discuss but to taunt. Whatever floats your boat.

To people who are troubled by this report but not inclined to grant infallibility to AP or Reuters, may I suggest that a thoughtful educated Catholic is probably a better source of information on the teaching of the RC Church than people who despise us, among whom I recommend including the Lame-Stream Media.

225 posted on 07/10/2007 12:39:08 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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