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To: Mrs. Don-o

“All who have been justified by faith in Baptism “

So what if one wasn’t Baptized? Say they haven’t had time , or they live in an Islamic country and the people who did the baptisms were beheaded?

Does God maintain a clipboard with checkbox next to purported Christians names to mark if the person was Baptized?


214 posted on 07/10/2007 12:24:26 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: pacelvi
Does God maintain a clipboard with checkbox next to purported Christians names to mark if the person was Baptized?

My understanding is he lets the junior angels handle the bureaucratic stuff.

There are also baptism of desire and baptism of blood, q.v., as traditional exceptions to the requirement of water baptism. We neither think nor teach that God is looking for reasons not to include people in His Love.

219 posted on 07/10/2007 12:34:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: pacelvi
"So what if one wasn’t Baptized? Say they haven’t had time , or they live in an Islamic country and the people who did the baptisms were beheaded?"

Again, from the Catechism,

"Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery."

Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

I sincerely urge you to follow that link to read the statement in context.

Searchable Catechism. A wonderful thing.

233 posted on 07/10/2007 12:48:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarfication.)
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To: pacelvi
Worse yet do we have to keep a little card, kind of like the warranty papers that come with a coffee maker? I don't think I got a card when I got baptized. And what kind of baptism counts? The Catholics sprinkle, Baptists dunk. Does one count the same as the other?

Now I'll agree that baptism can be the public profession of faith, as in some churches you don't go down front to get 'saved'. But is it necessary? Hmmmm, does requirement of baptism equate to works vs. faith? I think as a Southerner we sort of expect it down here but I'm not sure it's necessary. Always marked it up to a change in the heart as the defining moment

254 posted on 07/10/2007 1:08:34 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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