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To: pgyanke

So, you hold that the only way to be saved (by re-birth) is to be blessed by the hands of people who share person-to-person contact through to Christ Himself?

One cannot be saved by the Word itself and accepting Jesus into their heart? They have to have a direct-line connection to Jesus through touch?


200 posted on 07/11/2007 9:45:01 AM PDT by MacDorcha ("Slogans are Silly.")
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To: MacDorcha

Perhaps it’s the idea of a hierarchy that is the biggest turn-off for me. That I would bow or show reverence to anyone other than the Son of God and to God Himself is unreal to me, regardless of how they breakdown their worship structure.


201 posted on 07/11/2007 9:47:55 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Duncan Hunter in 2008! http://www.gohunter08.com))
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To: MacDorcha
One cannot be saved by the Word itself and accepting Jesus into their heart?

Why don't we ask Jesus? John 3:5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Jesus said more than once that we are to be baptized and commanded His Apostles do so with His flock. What God will do with those who do not partake of the Sacrament of Baptism, I will leave to Him.

They have to have a direct-line connection to Jesus through touch?

Do you not consider it significant that after the fall of Judas, the Apostles got together to discern the Will of God regarding a replacement for his office (Acts 1:15-26)? Matthias was chosen. This is Apostolic succession. Whether through direct touch or otherwise is above my paygrade.

205 posted on 07/11/2007 10:11:40 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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