[Greg F]

I know you have a metaphysical feeling that it makes sense to say that you can be born, become a God, and therefore always exist. The only problem is that it is illogical. To be born you need to be in time, not out of it, time exists, therefore there is a before.

[DelphiUser]

I know you have a metaphysical feeling that it makes sense to say that you can be born, become a God, and therefore always exist. The only problem is that it is illogical. To be born you need to be in time, not out of it, time exists, therefore there is a before.

So, I was born yesterday (take your cheap shots here!), Today I build a time machine and go back to the Day before Yesterday, did I exist the day before yesterday?

I know you are trying to find a way to say we are wrong that is irrefutable, but this is the wrong tree, temporal mechanics are on my side, it works, try again with something else.

I could even go into Spirits and intelligences which arguably existed before time. I don't even have to go there to support my point.

DU