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To: wita

On February 8, 1857 Brigham Young explained how God came to be God and fathered Jesus:

Things were first created spiritually; the Father actually begat the spirits, and they were brought forth and lived with Him. Then He commenced the work of creating earthly tabernacles, precisely as He had been created in this flesh himself, by partaking of the course material that was organized and composed this earth, until His system was charged with it, consequently the tabernacles of His children were organized from the coarse materials of this earth.

When the time came that His first-born, the Saviour, should come into the world and take a tabernacle, the Father came Himself and favoured that spirit [Mary] with a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it. The Saviour was begotten by the Father of His spirit, by the same Being who is the Father of our spirits, and that is all the organic difference between Jesus Christ and you and me. And a difference there is between our Father and us consists in that He has gained His exaltation, and has obtained eternal lives. The principle of eternal lives is an eternal existence, eternal duration, eternal exaltation. Endless are His kingdoms, endless His thrones and His dominions, and endless are His posterity; they never will cease to multiply from this time henceforth and forever. (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, pp. 217-218)

In a 1916 doctrinal statement by the LDS First Presidency we read:

1. “Father” as Literal Parent ... God the Eternal Father, whom we designate by the exalted name-title “Elohim,” is the literal Parent of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and of the spirits of the human race. Elohim is the Father in every sense in which Jesus Christ is so designated, and distinctively He is the Father of spirits. ... Jesus Christ is the Son of Elohim both as spiritual and bodily offspring; that is to say, Elohim is literally the Father of the spirit of Jesus Christ and also of the body in which Jesus Christ performed His mission in the flesh, and which body died on the cross and was afterward taken up by the process of resurrection, and is now the immortalized tabernacle of the eternal spirit of our Lord and Savior. (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, vol. 4, pp. 1670-1671)

Apostle Bruce R. McConkie explained:

God the Father is a perfected, glorified, holy Man, an immortal Personage. And Christ was born into the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; he was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about his paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events, for he is the Son of God, and that designation means what it says. (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, p. 742)

In the Encyclopedia of Mormonism, under the heading JESUS CHRIST we read:

For Latter-day Saints, the paternity of Jesus is not obscure. He was the literal, biological son of an immortal, tangible Father and Mary, a mortal woman (see Virgin Birth). Jesus is the only person born who deserves the title “the Only Begotten Son of God” ... He was not the son of the Holy Ghost; it was only through the Holy Ghost that the power of the Highest overshadowed Mary (Luke 1:35; 1 Ne. 11:19). (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, vol. 2, p. 729)

Would you like more?


1,049 posted on 07/13/2007 8:47:17 AM PDT by colorcountry (To pursue union at the expense of truth is treason to the Lord Jesus. - Charles Haddon Spurgeon -)
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To: colorcountry
CC, I am surprised and shocked. at your misunderstanding of Doctrine, maybe I should not be.

You claim to have grown up in the Church, learning everything all those who pass through primary do.

Jesus was born of a virgin. Period, no proviso, equivocation, no exceptions.

there is only one way to be a virgin. and once that status is removed, it is gone period.

There are many ways we have at our disposal now with our puny science to create a virgin birth. To assume that God has not those methods or Better (undoubtably WAY better) is to place God at such a position he can no longer be called God.

God is the literal father of Jesus Christ, in that Jesus had 1/2 of his DNA and 1/2 of Mary's, the church has never said how it was done and God has not said how it was done and it really is not something that is important, because that it happened is way more important than how.

Personally, I find such discussions purient and wonder about the dirty minds of those who even think that. Mary was and is a very righteous person, so righteous she was deemed to be a worthy vessel to carry and Mother Jesus. As a parent, I am sure you can see that responsibility would be almost overwhelming.

In short, I don't care who you misquote, quote or what you think you heard. Mary never had sex with God, it's an abomination to even say such a thing about two such righteous persons.
1,058 posted on 07/13/2007 9:29:40 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: colorcountry

You have more? It all sounds right to me, but then as I said before, you won’t be hearing that in your sunday school class, because you can’t document what is not, relatively speaking, a very important point. Life isn’t judged by what sort of mysterious knowledge we manage to acquire, but on how well we deal with the 10 or 20 0r 30 or so commandments, and in the end somehow manage to accept that Grace given freely to so many who will state on bended knee I don’t deserve it.


1,059 posted on 07/13/2007 9:30:30 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaksi@freerepublic.comr)
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