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How Old Is The Orthodox Faith
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Posted on 06/18/2007 12:22:11 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861

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To: XeniaSt

Sunday was made Holy in the Ressurection by God himself.

Those who deny Christ to this day reject God’s sacrifice.


101 posted on 06/19/2007 9:55:31 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Since the New Testament was not even put together before 300 AD or so, that isn’t even an issue. My Church existed BEFORE it did.

I'm aware it was compiled around the date you mention. I can't imagine you would dispute when it was written. In case you're having trouble it was back when many Jews participated before the Human divinity program was introduced.

102 posted on 06/19/2007 10:26:08 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: GoLightly

constantine never made Christianity the state religion either *sigh* does anyone know history?!?


103 posted on 06/19/2007 10:29:35 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: FormerLib
Actually, the Biblical evidence holds up find, only the assertion to the contrary fails.

he says as he removes his brazier...lol.

105 posted on 06/19/2007 10:36:07 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; TexConfederate1861; HarleyD

I happened upon both an Orthodox and a Byzantine Catholic church hear Port Clinton, Ohio last week. Neither were open at the time I was there. Too bad.

I’d have loved to have seen what there services were like.

I can’t recall where I read it, but there’s some dispute that Henry VIII “broke away from” the RCC over the divorce. What I read was that he intentionally reverted to the (orthodox) Celtic Christianity that pre-dated the RCC in England/Scotland. I can’t recall where I read it, so I can’t point you to it. It is a fact, though, that Celtic Christianity pre-dated the RCC in England/Scotland.

Also, it’s fairly difficult to say that baptists don’t consider themselves part of John’s ministry that included the Christ. They aren’t claiming a “historical” lineage; they are claiming a “spiritual” one.


106 posted on 06/19/2007 10:44:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: kawaii
Don’t sigh. You’re right & I appreciate the correction. He proclaimed religious toleration & was the first Christian Emperor. He didn’t publicly declare himself a Christian until later in life, but depending on the amount of influence his mother had on his beliefs in his early life, he may have had Christian leanings long before he publicly declared.

Theodosius I was the guy who made Christianity the official state religion in 391.

107 posted on 06/19/2007 10:56:18 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: xzins
It is a fact, though, that Celtic Christianity pre-dated the RCC in England/Scotland.

Yep, but I think it took the RCC to fully convert the Saxons & Angles, the ruling class. I think Henry had some Welsh roots in his lineage, but I'd need to do a bit of research to prove it.

108 posted on 06/19/2007 11:06:15 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: xzins

are there no orthodox churches near you normally?


109 posted on 06/19/2007 12:00:07 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: GoLightly

i just really hate how this freakish davinci code conspiracy like garbage has so infilitrated the public mind that Constantine was so pivotal in Christian history; he stopped persecuting Christians and on the advise of his spiritual father (Hosius of Cordoba) asked Christians to all ‘get along’. For centuries that was MORE THAN ENOUGH.


110 posted on 06/19/2007 12:14:48 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: jude24

You have a good point, for instance the language is off..it should refer to “Faith” or “Faith Tradition” not religion when talking about various Christian bodies.

Christians regardless of Faith Tradition are of one religion as opposed to Muslim or Jewish or Buddhist.

Language is important.


111 posted on 06/19/2007 12:55:24 PM PDT by Cheverus
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To: TexConfederate1861
If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.

What Knox taught, Calvin had taught. What Calvin taught, Augustine had taught. What Augustine taught, Paul had taught.

Basic precept of the article is faulty.

112 posted on 06/19/2007 12:57:26 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: kawaii

No, I’m in the middle of southern appalachian Ohio. My guess is that the closest is in Cincinnati proper....about 2 hours away.

Also, of course, I’m a pastor, so regular worship hours I’m already occupied.


113 posted on 06/19/2007 12:59:25 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

try saturday evenings or feast days then...

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Telephone: 513/791-6540
Email: frpaul@one.net
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Services: E; S
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Directions: I-71 exit 15 (Pfeiffer Rd.), W about 1/4 mi; L @ Kenwood; approx. 1 mi. to Myrtle Ave; L to church.
Service Schedule: Weekly services.
Protopriest Paul Bassett
Church of the Icon of the Virgin of All Who Sorrow
1350 W 69TH ST
CLEVELAND, OH 44102-2016

Last Update: Mar 13th, 2002
Telephone: 330/225-5615
Services: S, E
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Directions: West on 69th off Detroit Ave.
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Holy Resurrection Church
6201 DETROIT AVE
CLEVELAND, OH 44102-3007

Last Update: Aug 14th, 1994
Telephone: 216/651-2879
Services: S
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6520 BROADVIEW RD
PARMA, OH 44134-4802

Last Update: Jul 4th, 2004
Telephone: 216/447-1015
Web Site: www.saintsergius.org
Services: S, E
Diocese: Chicago
Directions: I-77 S from Cleveland to Snow Rd. exit, @ Rockside Rd., to Broadview; S on Broadview to parish
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URBANA, OH 43078-2021

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Telephone: ; 937/653-5179
Services: S, E
Diocese: Chicago
Directions: From I-70 (either E or W) take Rte. 68 N to Urbana, OH. Turn L onto Market St. in Urbana. Last driveway on R side of Market St.
Service Schedule: Weekly services.
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St. John Russian Orthodox Community
TOWNSHIP HALL @ ST. JOHN EPISCOPAL CHURCH
WORTHINGTON, OH

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Telephone: 440/793-0609
Web Site: www.saintsergius.org
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114 posted on 06/19/2007 1:28:29 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

As mentioned, these are all a couple hours or more away from me. But, Saturdays or feast days might work. Thanks for the leg work.


115 posted on 06/19/2007 1:31:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

another advantage of going saturday evening or feast day mornings would be you’re likely to get a sense of who the folks are who are always there as opposed to those there occasionally on sundays...

that said we don’t often attend saturdays or feast days as we’re over an hour from both parishes we go to... (there is an antiochian church 20 minutes from here but they don’t serve liturgy on feast days)


116 posted on 06/19/2007 1:33:55 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: TexConfederate1861
The arguments and refutations and excommunications and nailing up of grievances and all that go back a long ways and hardly anything heard now is fresh. It might be noted that without Christianity in whatever flavor the Old Testament would be nearly unknown now. Even less read than it is.

What'd he say, Martha?
Not sure Clyde, something about how old his Bible is.

117 posted on 06/19/2007 1:38:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: kawaii

Thanks. I’ve always wanted to see an orthodox service, but haven’t yet. I’ve seen those of so many other denominations, but orthodox wasn’t really possible. Hopefully, it’ll work out.


118 posted on 06/19/2007 1:40:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: GCC Catholic; Pyro7480

The English people were strongly attached to the Catholic faith and liturgy. So was Henry VIII. It is not insignificant that he enforced the Six Articles (Latin liturgy, celebate priests, lay Communion in one kind, private Mass, confession/penance, relics) in an effort to quash the Protestant movement. When Archbishop Cranmer was finally able to publish an English liturgy (BCP 1549), the result was essentially an English translation of the Old Sarum Rite liturgies.

The fiecely independant English people were not fans of the Pope. They saw him not as the spirtual leader of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, but as a pawn of foreign rulers who did not exactly have England’s best interests in mind (considering that Emperor Charles V held Pope Clement VII captive, the English had a very strong reason to be leery).

When Henry VIII ended Papal authority, nobody really resisted him. He met only small half hearted resistance when he closed the monasteries (the Pilgrimage of Grace). It would not be until after his death, when the nation swung way over to the Protestant side that the people began to object.


119 posted on 06/19/2007 1:46:31 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: TexConfederate1861; Iscool

This is a point that needs emphasizing over and over again.

The One Catholic and Apostolic Church is not MY church. It is the Church that Jesus Christ established on Earth. It’s His. Not mine, not yours and not any human being’s. Martin Luther formed a church. So did Jimmy Swaggart and Ted Haggard. So did L. Ron Hubbard, for that matter. So did John Smyth. So did Mary Baker Eddy. So did the Campbells. All proud enough to form their own church. With the fiction that they were smart enough to interpret Scripture on their own, regardless of Scripture’s own command not to do that.

I’ve been blessed with the grace of God and been able to follow Him by following His Church, and through Her, His teachings. The Orthodox Catholics, as has been very well explained here, have some internal differences from Rome. No problem. We are all one Church.


120 posted on 06/19/2007 1:48:19 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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