[Campion]

Harley, the "temple" exists. It was built, past tense. It is not a pagan temple to Mary. It is a Christian church.

Juan Diego was a illiterate Indian. He was not a doctor of reformed theology, or any other kind of theology. Sometimes God reaches us down where we are, even though you don't approve.

[HarleyD]

What I’m not hearing is how anyone know this vision of Mary was from God? Every time there's a “virgin sighting”, Mary always ends up looking like one of the natives. Doesn’t that seem a tad odd? Our Lord Jesus, in His resurrected body, still appeared with the imprints in His hands and the wound in His side. In this case Mary probably would have had a sombrero on if it wasn’t for her halo.

I have yet to see Mary looking like a short dark Middle Eastern as she most likely was; rather than the African, Oriental or anything else. It is understandable when people paint pictures of Mary that she appears like this because it is an artist's interpretation. However, when people say that Mary stamped her picture on their T-shirt, then one would hope that it would be an exact likeness of her. If you compare Juan's pictures among all the other pictures from the few who have similar stories, then you would think the likeness would be the same. She wouldn't look like she just came off a catechism card.

It isn't a matter of what WE believe. It is a matter of what scripture tells us.