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To: tpaine
Socialism always ends in economic laziness and ruin, because it is based on the false economic/political premise that social ends can be achieved by forcing individuals to obey group goals.

Socialism would work if everyone desperately wanted it to. But that's not reality, and that is my point, which it appears you missed

Oops, I just noticed that I'm posting to "tpaine". Of course you missed my point. Never mind.

11 posted on 06/15/2007 2:35:10 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: SampleMan; y'all
SampleMan claims:

- socialism doesn't have to result in economic laziness and ruin. But it always ends that way.

Socialism always ends in economic laziness and ruin, because it is based on the false economic/political premise that social ends can be achieved by forcing individuals to obey group goals.

Socialism would work if everyone desperately wanted it to.

Bold point. Coupled with your previous line we get: Socialism doesn't have to result in economic laziness and ruin, - it would work if everyone desperately wanted it to.
Quite the marxist type statement, no?

But that's not reality, and that is my point,

Your point is "not reality"? Amusingly ~cool~ psychobabble.
And, - "desperately wanting" a flawed premise to work is indeed a rejection of reality.

which it appears you missed Oops, I just noticed that I'm posting to "tpaine". Of course you missed my point. Never mind.

And of course, in trying to be 'cool', you missed mine. How typical.

Treating one's neighbor as you would have yourself treated only makes sense if there is something bigger to consider than number one.

The premise that a groups "bigger" goal can be gained by treating an unwilling neighbor as a scofflaw makes no sense at all.
Treating one's neighbor as you would have yourself treated [our golden rule] is part of the basic principles of our Constitution and Bill of Rights; - our rights to life, liberty, or property, - shall not be infringed.

Naturally, you've ignored my points about our constitution. Why is that?

13 posted on 06/15/2007 6:46:30 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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