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To: RobbyS
To us the church is the body of Christ as well. This church is made up of individual believers who are indwelt with the Holy Spirit, just like the bible says many times, over and over. The Lord has said that He prefers a tabernacle made without hands. The difference is, you want to think that the Catholic belief system, almost every bit of it, unbiblical and put together by men, is the one true church. We do not accept this premise, and unlike you,we have the bible as our authority in refuting your premise. You have the opinions of men underpinning your system, (and it is a system) which are and always will be, inferior to God's Word.

Where did you get the idea that the HS is at your beck and call? What is the biblical support for this notion? The bible says that Jesus sends the Comforter. How did you, as mere men, get this power? From the priest who changes intoChrist? Again, where is the scriptural support for this? It has more in common with the antiChrist calling fire down from heaven, showing himself that he is God, and performing signs and wonders.

If you are worthy How does one become "worthy" since God says nothing you can ever do will please Him?

117 posted on 06/15/2007 6:02:27 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
I don’t see you theory of the Church in the Bible. Just read Luke-Mark. How does it sustain that theory. I see Christ calling together a chosen few and making them his “main men.” Around this circle of Twelves, he see a wider Circle of 72 who are sent on as wider mission. I see the main events of the Passion, death, and Resurrection. Again: a limited circle. I see him appearing to this select group. Indeed, we have a reference of hundreds having seen the Lord, but again at Pentecost, we see the select few, and with the descent of the Holy Ghost, we see the Gospel proclaimed my the chief one of those called, Peter. There is a core of the corps of believers, and Acts focuses on them. Paul is brought on the scene, and he is indeed one of those “outsiders” who have seen the Lord. He is baptized and begins his independent mission, But then he is brought in, and then, you will recall sent home “to await further orders.” Barnabas manages to bring him back, and the rest, as they say, is history. He goes out to preach the Gospel to the nations but being so totally Jewish,makes no immediate impact on the pagans. Neither is he successful with the Jewish leaders; he splits congregations and joins with Jews and the God-fearers who are already drawn to the God of Abraham, and finally he has found those whom the Holy Spirit has prepared for his message. But notice that he is more than a wandering Apostle who goes from place to place planting the sees of the Gospel. From Ephesus, where he stays for many years, he is a farmer who returns to the fields he has planted to see how the leaders he as appointed are carrying on. In short, Luke is focusing on personalities who have know the Lord or know those who have known the Lord, but especially those in Jerusalem, which until the 60s remains the Mother Church of all. In short, I see that the Lord has established a hierarchy and that this hierarchy shapes the mission to the world.
124 posted on 06/15/2007 6:51:43 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHOa)
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