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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Wow. You even post your invective against the Catholics in a thread critical of the Protestants. You don’t stop. But nice try to point the floodlights in the other direction.

The article reads that there are upwards of 260 reports of sex abuse in the protestant churches per year. In the Catholic church, however, the article points out that there has been 13,000 cases of child molestation since 1950. Whipping out the ole calculator and figuring out the average per annum for the Catholic Church reveals 232 cases per year (13,000/56).

Oh, but those doing the fact gathering must be papists right? Or the supposed victims of the Protestants are liars?


100 posted on 06/15/2007 3:59:53 PM PDT by theanonymouslurker
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To: theanonymouslurker
"In protestant churches" (which includes volunteers and congregation members, as stated in the quote.)

Not "Clergy."

Get the difference?

107 posted on 06/15/2007 4:37:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: theanonymouslurker

Compare apples with apples. The protestant numbers come from 224,000 protestant churches. How many Catholic churches produced their numbers?


129 posted on 06/15/2007 8:56:52 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: theanonymouslurker; A.A. Cunningham; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; IMRight
Wow. You even post your invective against the Catholics in a thread critical of the Protestants. You don’t stop. But nice try to point the floodlights in the other direction.

The article reads that there are upwards of 260 reports of sex abuse in the protestant churches per year. In the Catholic church, however, the article points out that there has been 13,000 cases of child molestation since 1950. Whipping out the ole calculator and figuring out the average per annum for the Catholic Church reveals 232 cases per year (13,000/56).

Oh, but those doing the fact gathering must be papists right? Or the supposed victims of the Protestants are liars?

Forget for the moment that your "ole calculator" is completely useless when you feed it bad data, and agreeing that the sex abuse problem is not limited to any single religious body, it is apparent we have no complete and accurate numbers to work with.

I suspect there are very few Insurance Companies which handle the vast majority of insurance needs of all the Churches in the United States. (We see three companies covering most Protestant Churches. Probably fewer, or not many more, handle the Catholic Churches).

The surest way to determine the incidences and payouts is to find the premiums charged to these various Churches.

I pinged IMRight because I thought he might, with his vast knowledge and contacts, might be able to find these numbers. (Hi IM, how have you been?) :-)

In any event I believe the cost of insurance is a much better indicator of "incidences" and "payouts" than any of the articles thus far presented.

Can anyone help?

147 posted on 06/16/2007 10:30:03 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: theanonymouslurker; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; Gamecock; fortheDeclaration; ...
Wow. You even post your invective against the Catholics in a thread critical of the Protestants. You don’t stop. But nice try to point the floodlights in the other direction.
The article reads that there are upwards of 260 reports of sex abuse in the protestant churches per year. In the Catholic church, however, the article points out that there has been 13,000 cases of child molestation since 1950. Whipping out the ole calculator and figuring out the average per annum for the Catholic Church reveals 232 cases per year (13,000/56).

We have no idea of how many are done in the Catholic church each year as they "self insure" on this and because many are homosexual and the young boys are reluctant to point at a "man of God" and then there is the fear of being seen as "gay" . And then there are the reported ones that are settled and swept under the carpet and the priest reassigned to where no one knows him and who can re-offend.

The question is not the sin of the offender it is the sin of the church that covers it up and allows them to escape the legal system and public scrutiny .

If these churches are reporting it to their insurance company you had better believe they have also revealed it to the congregation and the denomination and the police. The insurers would want to know that the man or woman had been removed from the insured employed before continuing coverage.

The difference is the Catholic church hides the sin , Protestants confront the sin and sinner as scripture orders.What is done in the dark is brought to the light !

151 posted on 06/16/2007 11:06:39 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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