Posted on 06/11/2007 8:06:18 AM PDT by ZGuy
That is what I said.
So answer this: Since the bible states unequivocally that the powers that be are ordained of God, how is it possible that Clinton could get to be the most powerful man on earth for 8 years without God ordaining him to that position?
Do you think God preordained what you had for breakfast this morning, or did you think you had a choice?
I see you did not answer the question. Paul says that the powers that be are ordained of God. Do you disagree with Paul?
Do you think God preordained what you had for breakfast this morning, or did you think you had a choice?
Both.
I think that passage has an underlying implication that the pwers he refers to are legitimate and are ruling in an honorable way.
If I am wrong on that, you’d have to conclude that government officials who commit crimes should not be prosecuted. Doesn’t God hate evil?
ROFL!!!!! You should be Catholic, FRiend ... you sure answered that question like one.
He shouldeither be a Catholic, but I think he is a Calvinist.
Wrong. In a practical sense, I am probably more Calvinistic than most Calvinists, but I am not a traditional Calvinist as I do not rule out God's foreknowledge as being instrumental in election, nor do I believe that the focus of the atonement was specific to the elect and not to the world.
That being said, I recognize that NOTHING occurs on this earth that has not been foreordained by God. NOTHING.
That gives me comfort. Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me.
There you go.
It was a serious response. It was an honest response. It was the correct response.
You did err. First you said they were removed, then you said they were changed. They don't mean the same thing, in case you didn't know.
You also seem to believe the secret ceremony of the LDS Temple to be changeable.
You're the one making that claim, not I. Are you now saying the blood oaths were neither removed nor changed? Make up your mind.
LOL!
Hey, great response. :::rolls eyes:::
But of course. It was also the exact word I would use to answer such a question. Your elaboration on that answer is very similar to one I would give. I find that interesting and refreshing.
I don’t see how yu can reconcile your position with:
Joshua 24:14-16 (New International Version)
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14 “Now fear the LORD and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your forefathers worshiped beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the LORD. 15 But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.”
16 Then the people answered, “Far be it from us to forsake the LORD to serve other gods!
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
You can vote for your preacher or better yet Hillary. I will stick with the issues. I’m more interested in high gas prices and terrorist attacks than your disgruntled view of the Mormon church! Get a life.
You joined today to tell me off for something somebody else wrote? Nice way to introduce yourself to FR.
“There are a lot of things in the history of each religion. Because something was part of the church in 1990, does not make it viable for today.”
It does matter when the church is a Restorationist group that claims to be the “only true church on the face of the earth” and the church “founded by Christ and his apostles”, which is what the LDS (mormons) believe.
It matters when the changes are in Temple ceremonies, supposedly given BY GOD to Joseph Smith as containing all of the “signs and tokens” required to get into the Celestial Kingdom, which is necessary for each male member to become a god themselves.
If, as Mormons claim, they have the ETERNAL gospel, then major changes in the most important ceremony (the Temple Endowment) are big, VERY big.
I think it may be well for the writer of this article to consider the counsel given in Acts 5:35-40. There is a fear that if Mitt Romney becomes president a lot of people will lose their souls. To that I reply, as a Calvinist, that God will save those he has elected to save, and those that he has not elected to save, will perish- Mitt Romney or not. God has all power, and he wants to use Mitt Romney as a tool to carry out his purposes, it will happen and if he doesn’t want it to happen, it won’t happen. But to me, this is a political matter. I like his views on immigration, abortion, taxes, and especially families. Most of the problems in our society can be traced to a breakdown in family life including education, welfare, health care, drug abuse, etc. When you compare Mitt Romney with Hillary Clinton on this issue, there is a stark contrast.
I would also add the opinion that there will be more souls lost under a Clinton administration than a Romney administration.
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