Agreed!
It drive a knife through my heart every time I see “INSTITUTES OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION by John Calvin “ posted anywhere.
I pray that we Catholic,s and Orthodox have the courage of Saints in defending Eucharist. They defended the Blessed Sacrament even until death.
I would do the same.
“They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again.” Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to Smyrnaeans, 7,1 (c. A.D. 110).
“For as to what we say concerning the reality of Christ’s nature within us, unless we have been taught by Him, our words are foolish and impious. For He says Himself, My flesh is meat indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. He that eateth My flesh and drinketh My blood abideth in Me, and I in him. As to the verity of the flesh and blood there is no room left for doubt. For now both from the declaration of the Lord Himself and our own faith, it is verily flesh and verily blood. And these when eaten and drunk, bring it to pass that both we are in Christ and Christ in us. Is not this true? Yet they who affirm that Christ Jesus is not truly God are welcome to find it false. He therefore Himself is in us through the flesh and we in Him, whilst together with Him our own selves are in God.” Hilary of Poitiers, On the Trinity, 8:14 (inter A.D. 356-359).
Dear Markomalley, please consider caucusing these threads .
There are too many wolves around here!
I wish you a Blessed Day
There are too many wolves around here!
I wish you a Blessed Day
I don't really have much time this morning to respond in depth, but I would like to make one comment about caucusing threads.
While I agree that there are some who seem to gain tremendous pleasure and satisfaction from deriding our beliefs, there are several others who do not agree with the Catholic or Orthodox issues on the Eucharist who have engaged in good conversation. In fact, I believe that it is very possible to gain some quite useful insight from their posts. HarleyD has recently brought up some valuable issues, from his persepctive, Ears_to_hear brought forward something about the Passover meal that I hadn't heard before (and I'm still looking forward to reading), and likewise GoLightly has been very constructive. We wouldn't have had that good conversation had the thread been caucused, as they wouldn't have posted.
Yes, there are wolves out there. But we must be steeled against them. Shoot, this is only an Internet forum (the premier Internet forum on the 'Net, but still, it's only a forum). Not like one of these wolves is actually in your face. Not like one of these wolves is standing up in the middle of a Mass and shouting condemnation. Not like one of these wolves is calling the police to close down the place and arrest the priest. Not like one of these wolves is trying to have the Church labeled a hate organization in an effort to shut it down. What about when that happens in real life? Not if, but when. Having some detractors on this Internet forum is not all that big a deal when you compare it to the coming r/w persecution.
I think the useful conversation we are having with our separated brethren is well worth dealing with the disruption. At least IMHO.