[trisham]

He's very explicit there in what he taught...and many of his disciples were disturbed by his teaching and left that day (cf John 6:66). If he were speaking in allegories, why would they have been disturbed?

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I would think it would be difficult to get past this point if one were to try to deny transubstantiation.

[armydoc]

I would think it would be difficult to get past this point if one were to try to deny transubstantiation.

If you are going to argue for transub, then it will be just as difficult to deny that anyone that has ever taken the Cathlic Eucharist is saved (see my post #111).