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To: P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg
Well that hermenutic is often employed by calvinists who claim that all means some and some means all.

Been there done that. It’s been explained how the biblical use of the word “all” is vastly different than the sleight of hand attempted by Morris. You need a different tune.

Your task is to answer Morris’ critics.

WWII dwarfed any tribulation that had occurred in the first century

That’s your opinion only. It is not support from any explicit biblical theology. It’s obvious that a person making such a claim does not understand how comparative language is used in the Bible. It’s merely a tactic to scare away the uninformed. It’s won’t work with me.

Everyone has their inconsistencies.

Yep. Admitting them is the key to growth and knowledge of the truth. That is why I’m not longer a dispensationalist. The inconsistencies are big enough to drive a truck through.

50 posted on 08/07/2007 10:24:58 AM PDT by topcat54 ("... knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:3))
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To: topcat54; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; blue-duncan; LiteKeeper; Iscool; dartuser; kevinw; JohnnyM
Your task is to answer Morris’ critics.

Simple. Since when are we required to accept as gospel the interpretation of scripture done by a skeptic? If he is a skeptic, then by definition, he is not going to accept any interpretation of the bible as being consistent or true. His bias is against the truth of scripture.

Now, in regard to the "this=that" argument, when you read Mat 24:23, Jesus is speaking to his disciples (that is, in reality every Christian who will ever be born again, i.e. including us) and he says that when you (disciples) shall see "ALL these things" (not "some of these things"... ALL); when you shall see all these things, "know that the end is near". Well the end hasn't happened yet, has it?

Going on to verse 24, Jesus says "this generation" that is the generation that sees "all these things" shall not pass away until "all these things" are fulfilled.

Now if a skeptic wants to find fault with my heremenutic, then so what? Let him. Do you think he'll be more impressed with your hermenutic that presupposes that "all those things" did occur, but it just happened to miss the attention of all the historians at that time, including the Apostles and the early Church fathers?

Give me a break. The dispensational hermenutic in regard to the Olivet Discourse is much more tenable than the preterist hermenutic.

Go ask Michael Ruse if he is willing to believe the scriptures if they presuppose that all the things mentioned in Matthew 24:29-32 have already occurred. Ask him if he would be any less skeptical of your interpretation than that of Dr. Morris. I dare you.

51 posted on 08/07/2007 11:08:03 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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