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To: Dr. Eckleburg; TomSmedley; 1000 silverlings; Lee N. Field; topcat54; ears_to_hear; Frumanchu; ...
"I already answered the question, PM. You just don't like the answer. It's always going to be the same answer."

Dr. E, I was asking the question because your answer was not clear. It is still not clear




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From the moment of His resurrection, Christ has been gathering the elect from all races and nations and bringing them home while subduing Satan and his minions which certainly included Nero."

Here's how Paul describes the death of the Antichrist...

"Then that lawless o­ne will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;"


This is how Nero died...

According to Suetonius, Nero fled to Via Salaria, a suburb of Rome with his remaining friends. They urged him to flee, but he prepared himself for suicide. Reportedly, the praetorian guard entered to capture Nero just as he stabbed himself with the help of his secretary, Epaphroditus. Upon seeing the figure of a Roman soldier, he gasped "this is fidelity."It was said by Cassius Dio that he uttered the last words "Jupiter, what an artist perishes in me!"

Do you see any connection there? I certainly do not. Jesus kills, brings the Antichrist to an end, at the brightness of his coming (Parousia).

Nero comitted suicide.




 "Satan is currently being subdued under Christ. Amazing that people would actually prefer to believe otherwise. What greater assistance does Satan need if Christians believe he is in control?"

What does this have to do with the issue at hand???

Is Satan defeated? Yes.
Is he powerless and can be safely ignored? o­nly at your extreme peril.
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"



Nero, Caligula, Ivan the Terrible, Stalin, every evil despot of every evil empire, including Hillary Clinton, is and was under the control of God who puts these reprobates into the paths of His flock for His own perfect purpose, not the least of which is so that we may know conclusively that with Christ we will triumph.

I agree totally. But the Bible states that Jesus will destroy the Antichrist at his Parousia.

Jesus Parousia has not yet occured.

Nero is long dead.

Therefore Nero is not the Antichrist refered to in II Thes.



"Sadly, the dispensationalist doesn't seem to really believe Him."


Why do you say this?




403 posted on 05/27/2007 2:24:34 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus; Dr. Eckleburg; TomSmedley; 1000 silverlings; Lee N. Field; ears_to_hear; ...
"Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;"

This is not a case of cosmic halitosis.

The Bible tells us what it means.

“He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength.” (Rev. 1:16)

“Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.” (Rev. 2:16)

“Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.” (Rev. 19:15)

“For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Heb. 4:12)

Christ conquers by means of the Word of God. That is the testimony of Scripture. The “lawless one” is defeated by the same means, the testimony of the Word of God.

420 posted on 05/28/2007 9:40:17 AM PDT by topcat54 ("... knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:3))
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