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To: scottteng
Then bust out your strong’s and find me rapture in the bible! Hint it is not there it is an invention or tradition of men most notably Darby and Scofield

The Rapture is as much biblical concept as is the Trinity, a word also not found in the Bible.

Now, if you like we can call it the being 'caught up' (1Thess.4:17) and changing in a 'twinkling of an eye' doctrine (1Cor.15:52).

37 posted on 05/21/2007 5:29:48 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! -Abe Lincoln)
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To: fortheDeclaration

It really serves no purpose to argue or debate this issue. Sit back, relax and what will be will be. I happen to agree with your assessment and believe we will be proven right in the end (which just might be sooner than later). However, to try reasoning with those who choose to believe differently is like trying to make butter out of skim milk. You just aren’t going to get anywhere.


42 posted on 05/21/2007 5:40:00 AM PDT by Russ
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To: fortheDeclaration

Also, for the rapture Jesus never touches foot on the earth but meets us in the clouds.
At the 2nd coming he stands physically on the mount of olives.

These are 2 seperate events.

Just as the Word says, he has not appointed us to wrath.

“Persecute Me Please

You would think the desire to go through the tribulation would be as popular as the desire to jump into a pit filled with vipers and broken glass. As illogical as it may seem, there appears to be a large number of Christians that fully expect to get roughed up before Christ returns.

Many Christians argue strongly for the right to suffer persecution at the hands of the Antichrist and the one world government. These tribulation saint wannabees constantly harp, “Because Jesus and His disciples suffered persecution, we should expect no better.” It’s been my experience that people with the weakest faith are generally the ones that talk the boldest. When the slightest difficulty comes their way, they cry to high heaven.

I hate to be the bearer of good news, but the word of God clearly states that believers will escape the tribulation bloodbath. “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Thes 5:9). “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth” (Rev 3:10).

In one regard, people who think the Church will go through the tribulation are somewhat correct. I believe there will be a huge number of “carnal Christians” that will find themselves left behind. By having the rapture before the tribulation, all those who find themselves facing the wrath of God will be without an excuse.”


54 posted on 05/21/2007 6:39:25 AM PDT by No Blue States
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