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To: Tax-chick

So fine... if you are going to block NON-CATHOLICS from entering the Mission... then the Park should be made “Post Vatican II (Novus Ordo) Catholic Only”..

This has tangented into a whole other conversation, but the bottom line is this:

If the Archbishop is not going to allow Trad Caths into a mission...citing they are not “catholic”...then block ALL OTHERS who are not born, bred, baptized Catholics. That means no Jews, No Muslims, no Protestants...no one else.

Do you see what I am getting at here?

I would LAY MONEY if I was to go to the Mission (the actual church) right now.. it would be open, and plenty of “non-catholics” would be in there. (I am actually thinking about doing this to prove a point.)

So if the point is stop “non-catholics” from entering the Church itself, then the park can remain open to the public...but yet the actual CHURCH should be closed to prevent the possible “non-catholic.”

Or are SSPX’ers and other Traditional Catholics the only ones that are “not Catholic?”


68 posted on 05/14/2007 12:36:58 PM PDT by xangel0228
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To: xangel0228
Do you see what I am getting at here?

Of course I do, but since it's a strawman argument, it's hardly relevant.

Unless I see a report from a reliable news source, rather than "someone said someone said someone said," it's really not meaningful to try to interpret the Archbishop's intentions.

69 posted on 05/14/2007 1:26:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Death is perishable. Faith is eternal.)
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To: xangel0228; Tax-chick
SSPX is a scxhism. Its leaders are excommunicated. They are not Catholic at all much less "Traditional" Catholics. This seems to also be the case of the website "YoungtraditionalCatholics" which would more accurately seem to call for a name like "YoungpseudoCatholicEnemies of Catholicism."

While I certainly recognize the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass, I attend diocesan Tridentine Mass each week courtesy of Bishop Thomas Doran of Rockford. I resent the SSPX fraud of claiming that their schism is "Catholic" and the schism's interference with the restoration of the Tridentine Mass, which is an interference carried out by their perpetual state of rebellion against legitimate Church authority.

Examples: On what authority (certainly not diocesan) do SSPX purport to hear ordinary every day confessions. They have no diocesan faculties. Or to purport to witness on behalf of the Church to which they do NOT belong and again extends them no faculties the marriages of people purporting to be Roman Catholics?

If the mission has passed into the hands of the state, it would seem that the bishop no longer has authority. If he has authority and the property is still that of the Catholic Church (the actual Church HQd in the Vatican and having bishops throughout the world and not the phony schismatic SSPX club of rebels who love to pose as "Catholic" while being anything but obedient to Church authority), then good for Bishop Gomez and whom he excludes and whom he includes is simply none of the schism's non-Catholic and anti-Catholic business.

The schizzies NEVER seem to get it that they have NO AUTHORITY whatsoever among actual Catholics.

79 posted on 05/14/2007 9:38:32 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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