Let's throw in "prots", "separated brethren", "heretics" while we are at it. If someone does not like heated debates and to have their doctrines or dogmas questioned stick to the caucus threads. It's so silly this constant cry of "catholic bashing" every time someone points out the inconsistencies in your sect.
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what's wrong with separated brethren? We are separated by our beliefs yet brothers and sisters in Christ. I don't get the objection to that phrase.....
"It's so silly this constant cry of "catholic bashing" every time someone points out the inconsistencies in your sect."
And to what inconsistencies are you referring?
"Separated brethren" is actually a term of endearment. As Catholics, we do not believe that Protestants have what we call the fullness of the Faith just as many Protestants may not believe that we have the fullness of their reformed faith. While there is a separation which reflects theological disagreement, "separated brethren" emphasizes the "brethren" part. If you are Protestant and want to regard Catholics like me as "separated brethren", I will not be offended that you regard me as a brother albeit separated.
"Heretic" is the only strong term of the three of which you complain. Catholics and Protestants differ on matters of theology. Otherwise there would simply be one big Christian Faith. WITHIN Protestantism, there are hundreds (charitably speaking) of differing confessions, each with its own insights on what it regards as the meaning of Scripture. The strong term for differences of belief within Christianity is heresy. It may be aimed (accurately or not) at Catholics or Protestants by those belonging to the other group. It may also be used in intramurals.
Whether or not some specific argument or remark constitutes "Catholic bashing" almost certainly depends on the context and the substance of the remark. Likewise, does that standard apply to whether some remark is Protestant-bashing.
I DO suspect that Ms. Jacoby is neither Catholic nor Protestant but rather an agnostic or atheist who wants to start a fight between those like thee and those like me. Let's frustrate the heck out of her by not rising to her bait. I ought not to be here to question the doctrines of Christianity which you hold dear. Nor ought you to be here to question the doctrines of Catholicism. Until we have earned the right to squabble publicly for the entertainment of the Ms. Jacobys of this world, we should agree to disagree respectfully with one another where we must disagree and work together, arm in arm without compromising the essential beliefs of either of us, on the overwhelming majority of beliefs, practices and policies on which we agree with one another and disagree with the Susan Jacobys.
I post this as one who enthusiastically refought the 30 Years' War here giving as offensively as I got until it occurred to me that you really are my brethren separated doctrinally on a few matters to be sure but brethren nonetheless. For what it is worth, the very best Christian I ever knew was a very old-fashioned "hard shell" Methodist woman who was my Catholic mother's lifelong best friend. Her name was Hilda. I earned a sense of shame realizing that in bashing Protestants, I was really also bashing Hilda. Whatever God's plan may be it just has to be better than yours or mine. It apparently includes the divisions among Christians over which He wept in the Garden at Gethsemane. Let us not unnecessarily add reasons for His tears.
If you want to homeschool your kids or send them to reformed Christian Academies, I have your back as I hope you have mine when I have homeschooled my kids or when we Catholics send our kids to Catholic schools including those owned, controlled and taught by the parents themselves.
Although there is something of a tradition of anti-Catholicism at certain levels of American society at many times in history, we Catholics have thrived here and have been more likely to be treated well by the majority Protestants in the US than otherwise. Now, our mutual enemies of the secularist variety would like to extend their hostility against Catholics to also begin a tentative persecution of other Christians who hold conservative social beliefs. Again I've got your back as I hope you have got mine. I don't think your Saviour and mine wants Ms. Jacoby to win over either of us.
Finally, as a "papist" and a proud "Romish papist" at that, feel free to call me one. The truth is not our enemy. The truth will set us free.
"Separated brethren" is actually a term of endearment. As Catholics, we do not believe that Protestants have what we call the fullness of the Faith just as many Protestants may not believe that we have the fullness of their reformed faith. While there is a separation which reflects theological disagreement, "separated brethren" emphasizes the "brethren" part. If you are Protestant and want to regard Catholics like me as "separated brethren", I will not be offended that you regard me as a brother albeit separated.
"Heretic" is the only strong term of the three of which you complain. Catholics and Protestants differ on matters of theology. Otherwise there would simply be one big Christian Faith. WITHIN Protestantism, there are hundreds (charitably speaking) of differing confessions, each with its own insights on what it regards as the meaning of Scripture. The strong term for differences of belief within Christianity is heresy. It may be aimed (accurately or not) at Catholics or Protestants by those belonging to the other group. It may also be used in intramurals.
Whether or not some specific argument or remark constitutes "Catholic bashing" almost certainly depends on the context and the substance of the remark. Likewise, does that standard apply to whether some remark is Protestant-bashing.
I DO suspect that Ms. Jacoby is neither Catholic nor Protestant but rather an agnostic or atheist who wants to start a fight between those like thee and those like me. Let's frustrate the heck out of her by not rising to her bait. I ought not to be here to question the doctrines of Christianity which you hold dear. Nor ought you to be here to question the doctrines of Catholicism. Until we have earned the right to squabble publicly for the entertainment of the Ms. Jacobys of this world, we should agree to disagree respectfully with one another where we must disagree and work together, arm in arm without compromising the essential beliefs of either of us, on the overwhelming majority of beliefs, practices and policies on which we agree with one another and disagree with the Susan Jacobys.
I post this as one who enthusiastically refought the 30 Years' War here giving as offensively as I got until it occurred to me that you really are my brethren separated doctrinally on a few matters to be sure but brethren nonetheless. For what it is worth, the very best Christian I ever knew was a very old-fashioned "hard shell" Methodist woman who was my Catholic mother's lifelong best friend. Her name was Hilda. I earned a sense of shame realizing that in bashing Protestants, I was really also bashing Hilda. Whatever God's plan may be it just has to be better than yours or mine. It apparently includes the divisions among Christians over which He wept in the Garden at Gethsemane. Let us not unnecessarily add reasons for His tears.
If you want to homeschool your kids or send them to reformed Christian Academies, I have your back as I hope you have mine when I have homeschooled my kids or when we Catholics send our kids to Catholic schools including those owned, controlled and taught by the parents themselves.
Although there is something of a tradition of anti-Catholicism at certain levels of American society at many times in history, we Catholics have thrived here and have been more likely to be treated well by the majority Protestants in the US than otherwise. Now, our mutual enemies of the secularist variety would like to extend their hostility against Catholics to also begin a tentative persecution of other Christians who hold conservative social beliefs. Again I've got your back as I hope you have got mine. I don't think your Saviour and mine wants Ms. Jacoby to win over either of us.
Finally, as a "papist" and a proud "Romish papist" at that, feel free to call me one. The truth is not our enemy. The truth will set us free.
God bless you and yours.
It would be silly of me to cry "Catholic bashing" when someone speaks ill of my church, since I am a Baptist.