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I wouldn't make the assumption that not having a dozen children means a couple is using contraception. I'm proof of that one! After 15 years of never using birth control, my husband and I finally had our first and only child. Trust me, we wanted children badly, and it wasn't for lack of trying!


48 posted on 03/14/2007 1:02:06 PM PDT by Flo Nightengale (long-time lurker; infrequent poster)
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I wouldn't make the assumption that not having a dozen children means a couple is using contraception

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Yes, good point.

54 posted on 03/14/2007 1:51:47 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Thank you.


65 posted on 03/14/2007 2:50:17 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: Flo Nightengale; Salvation
After 15 years of never using birth control, my husband and I finally had our first and only child. Trust me, we wanted children badly, and it wasn't for lack of trying!

What a great blessing! In today's society, medical science would probably attribute the conception to some chemical change in your body. But in bliblical ... and, if you have such faith ... even contemporary times, this child was indeed a gift from God. It immediately brings to mind one of my favorite Gospel stories - The Announcement to Zechariah.


"Do not be afraid, Zechariah, for your prayer is heard..." (Luke 1:13).


Luke
Chapter 1
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2 In the days of Herod, King of Judea, 3 there was a priest named Zechariah of the priestly division of Abijah; his wife was from the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.
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Both were righteous in the eyes of God, observing all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blamelessly.
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But they had no child, 4 because Elizabeth was barren and both were advanced in years.
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Once when he was serving as priest in his division's turn before God,
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according to the practice of the priestly service, he was chosen by lot to enter the sanctuary of the Lord to burn incense.
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Then, when the whole assembly of the people was praying outside at the hour of the incense offering,
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the angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right of the altar of incense.
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Zechariah was troubled by what he saw, and fear came upon him.
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But the angel said to him, "Do not be afraid, 5 Zechariah, because your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you shall name him John.
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And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth,
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for he will be great in the sight of (the) Lord. He will drink neither wine nor strong drink. 6 He will be filled with the holy Spirit even from his mother's womb,
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and he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God.
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He will go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah 7 to turn the hearts of fathers toward children and the disobedient to the understanding of the righteous, to prepare a people fit for the Lord."
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Then Zechariah said to the angel, "How shall I know this? For I am an old man, and my wife is advanced in years."
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And the angel said to him in reply, "I am Gabriel, 8 who stand before God. I was sent to speak to you and to announce to you this good news.
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But now you will be speechless and unable to talk 9 until the day these things take place, because you did not believe my words, which will be fulfilled at their proper time."
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Meanwhile the people were waiting for Zechariah and were amazed that he stayed so long in the sanctuary.
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But when he came out, he was unable to speak to them, and they realized that he had seen a vision in the sanctuary. He was gesturing to them but remained mute.
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Then, when his days of ministry were completed, he went home.
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After this time his wife Elizabeth conceived, and she went into seclusion for five months, saying,
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"So has the Lord done for me at a time when he has seen fit to take away my disgrace before others."

74 posted on 03/14/2007 4:59:10 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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