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I read Scott Hahn's article from your link on Mary as the Queen Mother and found this quite interesting:

"Now turn over to 1st Kings 2. There's where David gives his royal charge to Solomon and Solomon asks for wisdom, but just browse and just go through that as quickly as you can and just see what is going on here because it is very unusual. Let's take a look in particular at verse 13. "Now Adonijah, the son of Haggith, went to Bathsheba, Solomon's mother. Bathsheba asked him, 'Do you come peacefully?' He answered, 'Yes, peacefully,' then he added, 'I have something to say to you.' 'You may say it, she replied.' 'As you know,' he said, 'the kingdom was mine. All Israel looked to me as their king. But then things changed and the kingdom has gone to my brother for it has come to him from the Lord. Now I have just one request to make of you. Do not refuse me.' 'You may make it she said. So he continued, 'Please ask King Solomon, he won't refuse you, to give me Abishag, the Shunamite as my wife.'" If you understood palace politics, you'd see what this was. "Very well," Bathsheba replied. "I will speak to the king for you." Abishag happened to be David's last lover and wife. She was the one young woman who kept him warm in his old age, sleeping next to him at all times. To have David's last wife would be to have official claim to the throne. This is why Absolom publicly slept with David's concubines after he threw his father out of Jerusalem, because if I have the Queen Mothers, if I have the king's wives, who do you see as your king? Solomon is no fool. When Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, look what happens. The king of Israel, the son of David, the supreme head of God's covenant people in the whole world, according to Psalm 2 stood up to meet her, bowed down to her and sat down on his throne and he had a throne brought for the king's mother and she sat down at his right hand. "Sit at my right hand," Psalm 110. That's the position of authority. I have one small request to make of you. She goes on and makes the request. Solomon sees through it. Says no, of course, and executes Adonijah.

The only recorded request in all of scripture by a Queen Mother of the King, and the one who had approached the Queen Mother with the request is summarily executed by the King. What lesson can be learned from that??? Think about it.

517 posted on 03/05/2007 4:49:20 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

" I have one small request to make of you. She goes on and makes the request. Solomon sees through it. Says no, of course, and executes Adonijah"


Actually this fits right in with the Catholic view of Mary in her role as Queen Mother.
Just as this example shows - the ultimate decision lies with the king.
Mary has no magical influence over her Son. He knows best whether or not to honor an intercession.

So...just as the earthly Davidic kings could turn down a request from the Queen Mother...so too can the Eternal Davidic King choose not to honor a request from His Queen Mother as well.

The point that Hahn was making was that the office of Queen Mother DID exist, and she sat next to the king, and she did approach her son on behalf of others.


589 posted on 03/05/2007 9:27:58 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Uncle Chip
The only recorded request in all of scripture by a Queen Mother of the King, and the one who had approached the Queen Mother with the request is summarily executed by the King. What lesson can be learned from that???

Clearly from the text, sola scriptura, Solomon was very much predisposed to grant the request ... until he found out what it was. So the problem wasn't with the request coming through the Queen Mother, but with the request itself.

Adonijah was executed because the request was tantamount to high treason.

So I suppose the lesson that can be learned is, "Don't make treasonous requests of the King, even if you make them through His Mother.

613 posted on 03/05/2007 9:38:01 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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