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To: Marysecretary
Catholics believe THEY are the only true church. I can't change their opinion but it's just an opinion. God's church is the entire body of believers, not a structure, not a denomination.

Luther, Zwingli and Calvin turned their backs on the Church and set up their own, paving the way for the creation of multiple churches. The mainstream Protestant churches - the Anglican, Presbyterian, Baptist etc. - were also found wanting and thus the American Restoration movement was formed, which created Disciples of Christ, Churches of Christ, Independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and others.

Now we have the New Testament types who are increasingly independent in forming their own theologies.

All completely independent from each other. All differing either slightly or grossly from each other. The Church that Jesus left on earth had the authority to ensure doctrinal purity. Acts and the Epistles document extensively the authority that the Apostles and the early Church officials had to deal with the individual church communities across the known world in correcting, instructing, admonishing and directing them.

There is no independence in God's church. It's not the rules of the individual. It's His rules. We cannot make it up as we go along.

2,305 posted on 03/29/2007 3:50:01 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: MarkBsnr
We cannot make it up as we go along.

But that's exactly what you do...Praying to Mary...Holy Water...Apparitions...Purgatory...Limbo...

Your church is based on tons of things that aren't scriptural...Then you call it 'tradition' which you say supercedes the word of God...

We did not become Christians because of your church...We are Christians because we ultimately heard the word of God from the bible...And it doesn't come any where near resembling your religion...We becaume Christians without your tradition...

You appear to claim that the Holy Spitit does not lead individuals to truth...Only your 'holy priesthood' is taught truth by the Holy Spirit...And it doesn't come from the bible...Is that an admission that the Holy Spirit does not dwell within you??? How do you know that it's not Satan leading your Magisterium??? Fact is, you don't...

2,315 posted on 03/29/2007 5:35:10 AM PDT by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: MarkBsnr
Luther, Zwingli and Calvin turned their backs on the Church and set up their own, paving the way for the creation of multiple churches. The mainstream Protestant churches - the Anglican, Presbyterian, Baptist etc. - were also found wanting and thus the American Restoration movement was formed, which created Disciples of Christ, Churches of Christ, Independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and others. Now we have the New Testament types who are increasingly independent in forming their own theologies.

Ping to reference this post later ....

2,330 posted on 03/29/2007 7:51:45 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: MarkBsnr

No, we can't. If you stick with God's Word, you will stay on the right path. There are way too many denominations, for sure. But the Catholics are not the true church. Those who are inhabited by God through His Holy Spirit are the true church, my friend.


2,358 posted on 04/01/2007 3:21:05 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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