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To: nanetteclaret

My post was not in disagreement with you. Of course He sent salvation to all.

However, He was first sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel, not Jews or Gentiles.


1,830 posted on 03/13/2007 9:19:28 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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However, He was first sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel, not Jews or Gentiles.

Stepping in here to help clarify....can't stay long as my grandson's baseball game starts soon. He's actually pretty good for nine years old and makes me proud. He has a 51 mile an hour fast ball....clocked! His dad, my son, was pretty good too, so he has an excellent pitching coach.

Many folks never heard of the distinction between Israel and Judah. Ping-Pong has alluded to it several times and I have also, so I thought I would take the time to expostulate.

In Genesis we read of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and of God's relationship to them. Abraham has other children and so does Isaac, but the scriptures primarily deal with Jacob and his progeny from the time his name is changed to Israel [Genesis 35:10]. The twelve sons and one daughter of Jacob are henceforth called the Children of Israel.....and the rest of the Old Testament is their story.

Everyone knows of the enslavement in Egypt and [Genesis 48] explains the division of the tribe of Joseph (Ephraim and Manessah). During the Egyptian captivity there are thirteen tribes of Israel but after the Exodus the tribe of Moses (and Aaron), the Levites, becomes a priestly tribe and is apportioned by population to serve the other tribes.... bringing the tribe count back down to twelve.

After the Exodus and the resettlement in "The Promised Land" the Kingdom of Israel is divided and this can be read about in the books of Kings and Chronicles...primarily chapters eleven and twelve of I Kings. Ten tribes, in the north, retain the appellation "Israel". The two tribes in the south are Judah and Benjamin....with their apportioned share of the priestly tribe of Levi. They are henceforth referred to as Judah...jointly, and later on in biblical history simply become known as "Jews".

There are multiple prophesies to the Nations of Israel and Judah....both jointly and separately....so when you are reading prophecy it helps to make this distinction. Later on in history, God in his anger sends away to exile the Northern Kingdom...(ten tribes) about 721 B.C. to Assyria [II Kings 17:6] and they never return from captivity. The king of Assyria repopulates the now vacant land with pagans [II Kings 17:24] and these folks blend in with their paganism some features of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob [II Kings 17:33-34] ....exemplified by their now new neighbors....the Jews, or the Southern Kingdom.

The ten tribes are now lost to history....everyone knows where they are, but they become known as strangers, sojourners, captives, and in reading ancient history of that era and local you will see many cultures developing in the same location at the same time as the ten tribes were in residence. So, bottom line....they became known by other names. Josephus knew who they were and where they were in the first century. Jesus knew who they were and where they were when he instructed his Apostles to "Go to them".

The Southern Kingdom of Judah (Jews) lived on in that area until they too, were taken captive.... to Babylon about 600 B.C. [II Kings 25:1-7] But, they returned to the "Promised Land" seventy years later and the books of Ezra and Nehemiah chronicle that episode. That land....of Judah (the Jews) became known as Judea in the first century. The land north was referred to as Samaria and still populated by paganized descendants of Babylonian refugees....the ancestors of Simon Magus. [Acts 8]

During the first century, the time we read most about in the New Testament, the ten tribes of Israel have still not returned to "The Promised Land" and they are known as Israelites.....and never referred to as Jews! The country of Judea is populated by Jews...who are also Israelites....one tribe. These ten tribes are who Our Saviour refers to when He speaks of the "Lost Sheep". [Matthew 10:6 and Matthew 15:24] He also references them in [John 21:15-17]. He is not speaking here of the Jews of Judea. He was one...so were most of the Apostles. He is not speaking of the Gentiles or He would have not called them His Lost Sheep!

This is only a scratching of the surface with regard to this story and like I say....I've got to go root for my grandson, so I would just like to leave you all with a suggestion. When you read prophecy look to see at whom it is directed. If it is directed to Israel in the last days....don't put too much credence in that being the little country we all call Israel today....for they are "Judah! This is one reason why many folks cannot understand simple prophecy. They are attempting to place it on the wrong people, at the wrong time, in the wrong place!

1,857 posted on 03/13/2007 3:02:19 PM PDT by Diego1618
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