Goats. Who doesn't love them?
Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool
Then what is the "world to come" where forgiveness is still available?
But where does it say that all generations shall call her by that litany of outrageous appellations that Mariolatrists have embraced?
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That it does. Thanks, Salvation.
It's a great thread! :)
The bible sure isn't.
It is staying remarkably polite for a religion thread.
Only a couple of folks condemning those darned papists to eternal fire. Suprisingly civil!
I have already been judged and I am guilty as charged. But I have been forgiven by the blood of Jesus Christ and now I am
Justified- Romans 3:24
Redeemed- Ephesians 1:7
Sanctified- 1 Cor 1:30
Forgiven from all tresspasses- Colossians 2:13
We that believed the gospel will be judged at the judgement seat of Christ but it will be for our rewards.
Your works won't save you. If you commit one sin, you are unable to enter the presence of God. The blood that Jesus shed is all that is necessary. If you are keeping the law, you have to keep it all. If you break one, you break them all. No one in the bible was saved by keeping the law.
Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross
Repentance means a change of mind. You realize that you can't please a Holy God with your good works.
Faith is the only thing that saves you.
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth.
Not baptism, joining a church,confession or walking an aisle. Believe what Jesus did for you and rest in his righteousness, not yours.
Thank you -- and everyone -- for your/their prayers. This has been one of the most wonderful few days of my life, and it's entirely because (I think) of being lifted up by so many people in their prayers. I feel so strong, though I have to hitch myself up the stairs on my behind.
Did I say I'm reading Salvifici Doloris? That there is some good stuff!
It would be so great. There's God on his throne, and the heavenly court, and here is a goat nibbling at some angel's robe, and another one trying to jump up on the back of the throne ... And when they're glad to see you they come trotting and bucking toward you in a kind of mock fight. Everybody would be glad!
Maybe I'm making this up or maybe it's in Shaw's Androcles and the Lion, but I have this image of somebody, a BIG STRONG somebody saying to his attacker,"Okay, I've shown you how we Xtians turn the other cheek. Now it's your turn to show me how well hyou learned it," and decks him.
This is going to sound all precious and pseudo pious: I count it all as dross. Yes, I long for the leeks and garlic and fleshpots. I am not better than the ungrateful children of Israel.
But God slaps me upside the haid and brings me to my senses, and I look around me and, well I am just so happy to be here! Sure I would love to preach again and to preside at a Mass. And I was "high" in my Eucharistic thinking, and I think God mercifully accepted my devotion and intention and brought me home through it.
But, and I'm serious here, I'm in church. I'm hearing the Gospel, I'm living in the Sacrament. The children are making noises like exotic birds or mischievous monkeys. The older hard of hearing couples are "whispering" so that they can be heard 5 pews away, and a miracle is all around me! I can't spend to much time in self-pity in those circumstances, now can I?
Life long RCs get all bent out of shape (and I understand) over liturgy or whether people are standing or kneeling or holding hands during the Lord's Prayer or whatever. I personally would like to have a chance to speak, uh, firmly, yeah, that's it, firmly, to the yahoos that did the NAB translation. It's like English wasn't their native language!
But, come ON! There is this torrent of Love here! And nothing can hold it back except my own frozen heart. And it's a WARM torrent and my heart is thawing!
I quite understand, I think, the concern of our protestant brethren -- in the sense that it would be such a shame when people are bathed and born up and swept along in such a river if they ever thought they had to earn it. But I end up just wanting to say, "Shut up and jump in! Put those worries away!"
So it's a loss, yeah. But a little one. A tiny one, and it has been made up a thousand times over.
Balderdash!
The reason Mary was given to the care and home of John was because, to John.....she was "Aunt Mary".
Since Joseph was evidently dead....and Jesus was estranged from his brothers....John, being the next closest relative, was given the responsibility.
You folks can come up with all your "touchy feely" things about what really happened, but logic and scripture will always show your error.
Dude, you're the one who insists that the number of Catholics who have read the CCC is "close to none". I tell you that that is not the case in my own experience and clearly is NOT your experience from the posters here at FR. Yet you continue to insist it is and that I am lying to you. Wow. I assume the best of my fellow Christians. I don't understand what it is like to be so distrusting and willing to believe the worst.
It didn't take long show how silly your example is.
Peter was a good man. Peter was a disciple. Paul is mentioned over 230 times! So what!
Peter did not have any primacy. Peter was never in Rome. No matter how much you folks want to spin it.....Peter was just Peter!
When I am free from the penalty of sin, I can now live my life led by the Holy Spirit. I am sealed with that Spirit and he guides me. I now have a new nature. I am still responsible to God's law and American law but it won't send me to Hell if I break one of them. The law never saved anyone, it was only to show that we could never keep them all. When you believe, The Spirit causes your old sin nature to be transformed into a new nature that is in the likeness of God. It doesn't happen overnight, but He does the work in me. No one can live a life pleasing to God without the Holy Spirit.
Read Galatians. This book is all about the Jews trying to put the Gentiles under the law and Paul showing them they are not justified by their works. These verses tell us this.
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, [is] therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
Gal 2:18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
Gal 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
I think it's the Guinness. :)
You get to be buried in a Dominican Habit....that's kind of cool.
AlaninSA accused me of breaking the eighth commandment and I accused all of you of breaking the fourth.
I don't steal....but you folks dishonor the Holy Sabbath by the institution of your "Invincible Day of the Sun"!
Goats. Who doesn't love them?
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