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To: Scotswife

Where information comes from: Reprod Nutr Dev • Volume 28 • Issue 6B (translated). Journal describes how methodologies were applied.

If life doesn't begin at fertilization, then when exactly does it begin?

All I can do is shrug; I don't know. But if life begins at fertilization, then every month, 80% of new human lives get flushed down the toilet because they failed to implant. I guess I just don't see God being a very big fan of that kind of pointless waste of souls He's created - souls that were never known to exist by anyone other than God. Of course, now Capt. Gates can rant at me some more.


171 posted on 02/17/2007 7:47:56 PM PST by cammie
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To: cammie

------"every month, 80% of new human lives get flushed down the toilet because they failed to implant."------

This is not a corect inidence rate for humans.


------"Of course, now Capt. Gates can rant at me some more."-----

Well, OK


173 posted on 02/18/2007 2:50:10 AM PST by Captain Gates ('kill your TV')
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To: cammie

"All I can do is shrug; I don't know."

if you don't know then why not err on the side of caution?
Every living human being carries their own unique DNA code.
The very first moment this DNA code comes into existence and the new living organism begins to grow is at fertilization.
Common sense tells us this is the beginning of human life.

"But if life begins at fertilization, then every month, 80% of new human lives get flushed down the toilet because they failed to implant."

first of all...where are you getting this number from?

second of all...even if true (which I find hard to believe), there is a difference between intentional destruction of life vs. unintentional.
Some may fail to implant for various reasons which we are not aware of.
Some implant but are only growing a placenta with no baby inside.
We don't know all the causes, but should be careful we are not playing God with human life by intentionally destroying human beings in the very first stages of their existence.

" I guess I just don't see God being a very big fan of that kind of pointless waste of souls He's created "

We cannot know the mind of God, nor can we assume these souls are "wasted".
What seems pointless to us may only be our ignorance at work.


178 posted on 02/18/2007 11:13:50 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: cammie

now I see you provided a source and I missed that before posting.
Not sure how to access it though.

I think my main question is how are they coming up with this number?
How do they know how many zygotes they are dealing with and how do they know they are being flushed away?


179 posted on 02/18/2007 11:16:26 AM PST by Scotswife
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