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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Certainly, of the two, the latter is far more contrary to Scripture and borders on heresy by explicitly denying that the atonement of Jesus Christ upon the cross has paid for the sins of His sheep.

Purgatory is a dangerous, ungodly fiction.

What's "ungodly" is the "Reformist" view of the atonement of the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ - that once your accept Jesus as your Saviour, your sins past, present, and future are "covered." It's as if one's conduct, whether good or wicked, doesn't matter, as long as you accept Jesus as your Saviour. This view is contrary to the Gospel itself.

24 posted on 01/29/2007 9:24:24 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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To: Pyro7480
that once your accept Jesus as your Saviour, your sins past, present, and future are "covered." It's as if one's conduct, whether good or wicked, doesn't matter, as long as you accept Jesus as your Saviour.

The sins of His sheep were paid for by the "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8). Justified once for all time by the sacrifice of Christ on the cross. There are so many Bible verses stating this it is baffling how so many people miss it.

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:...." -- Romans 3;20,28

[we]"...are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood... He did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus." -- Romans 3:25,26

"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin." -- Romans 3:20

"He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification." -- Romans 4:25

"Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men." -- Romans 5:18

"... through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses." -- Acts 13:38

"those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified." -- Romans 8:30

"know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified." -- Galatians 2:16

"You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace." -- Galatians 5:4

Our sanctification is temporal. We grow in faith in and through time, by the work of the Holy Spirit within us. Our good works earn us nothing; they are evidence of our salvation, not payment for it because mercy cannot be earned.

If one truly believes in Jesus Christ, they can be assured the Holy Spirit is working to keep them on the straight and narrow path. All stray, but by the grace of God, we stray less and less each day. His mercy actually makes us want to obey and be conformed to His will until the day we die and we are glorified with Him.

Pick up the Bible and read it. It's all there.

31 posted on 01/29/2007 10:00:14 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Pyro7480

Amen!


36 posted on 01/29/2007 10:07:58 AM PST by pjr12345
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To: Pyro7480; pjr12345; Dr. Eckleburg
It's as if one's conduct, whether good or wicked, doesn't matter, as long as you accept Jesus as your Saviour. This view is contrary to the Gospel itself.

Romans 3:8 And why not do evil that good may come?—as some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just.

41 posted on 01/29/2007 10:36:12 AM PST by HarleyD (Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt - Lev 19:17)
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