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Religion Forum Research Project: God is the Rock
Various | January 25, 2007 | Alamo-Girl

Posted on 01/25/2007 10:49:26 AM PST by Alamo-Girl

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Thank you in advance for your assistance in exploring this issue!


1 posted on 01/25/2007 10:49:27 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Quix; hosepipe; xzins; .30Carbine; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; ...

Pinged in case you are interested in this research project.


2 posted on 01/25/2007 10:50:20 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Buggman; XeniaSt; Alamo-Girl

Did you ping these two torah fanatics?

:>)


3 posted on 01/25/2007 10:53:04 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: BibChr; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Alamo-Girl

These two are greek experts....I'm not sure about their Hebrew, but who knows. In any case, they're both very knowledgeable.


4 posted on 01/25/2007 10:55:03 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins; XeniaSt; Buggman

LOL! I got Buggman but said to say I missed XeniaSt. Thank you for pinging them!


5 posted on 01/25/2007 10:55:39 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: xzins

Thank you again, I missed both of them! Sorry about that.


6 posted on 01/25/2007 10:56:09 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Another great A-G post. Thanks.


7 posted on 01/25/2007 11:26:58 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Thank you oh so very much for your encouragements!


8 posted on 01/25/2007 11:28:42 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Not sure how my limited language skills can contribute.

But humbled and happy to read and comment in my usual . . . style.


9 posted on 01/25/2007 12:41:19 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

Your insights will be much appreciated, dear brother in Christ!


10 posted on 01/25/2007 12:44:06 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thanks thanks.

May get back to it this evening. AT the college now with lunch and shortly back to pottery.


11 posted on 01/25/2007 12:45:44 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Matthew. 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my church,

One method of Hermeneutical understanding of Matthew 16:18
is to do a word study of all the scriptures which were then known
as the Holy Word of G-d when Y'shua spoke these words.
This will allow one to understand that all of the Holy Word of G-d
was inspired by YHvH; the whole counsel of G-d.

The only conclusion that one can come to unless you are
predisposed to believe in man's tradition over the Holy Word of G-d
is that Y'shua was speaking of himself as the "Rock "
e.g.

Genesis 49:24 But his bow remained steady, his strong arms stayed
[Or archers will attack...will shoot...will remain...will stay] supple,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,

Deuteronomy 32:3 I will proclaim the name of the LORD. Oh, praise the greatness of our God!

Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock , his works are perfect, and all his ways are
just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.

Deuteronomy 32:15 ..... He abandoned the God who made him and rejected the Rock his Saviour.

Deuteronomy 32:30 How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten
thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless
the LORD had given them up?

Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not like our Rock , as even our enemies concede

Deuteronomy 32:32 Their vine comes from the vine of Sodom and from the fields of Gomorrah.
Their grapes are filled with poison, and their clusters with bitterness.

1 Samuel 2:2 "There is no-one holy [Or no Holy One] like the LORD;
there is no-one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.

2 Samuel 22:2 He said: "The LORD is my Rock , my fortress and my deliverer;

2 Samuel 22:3 my God is my Rock , in whom I take refuge, my shield and the
horn [Horn here symbolises strength.] of my salvation.
He is my stronghold, my refuge and my saviour — from violent men you save me.

2 Samuel 22:32 For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?

2 Samuel 22:47 "The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God, the Rock , my Saviour!

2 Samuel 23:3 The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me:
'When one rules over men in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,

Psalm 18:31 For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?

Psalm 18:46 The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God my Saviour!

Psalm 19:14 May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.

Psalm 42:9 I say to God my Rock , "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?"

Psalm 78:35 They remembered that God was their Rock , that God Most High was their Redeemer.

Psalm 89:26 He will call out to me, `You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Saviour.'

Psalm 92:15 ..... "YHvH is upright; he is my Rock , and there is no wickedness in him."

Psalm 95:1 Come, let us sing for joy to the LORD; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.

Psalm 144:1 Praise be to the LORD my Rock , who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.

Habakkuk 1:12 O LORD, are you not from everlasting? My God, my Holy
One, we will not die. O LORD, you have appointed them to
execute judgment; O Rock , you have ordained them to punish.

b'shem Y'shua
12 posted on 01/25/2007 1:44:12 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHVH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya’aqob.”Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Wowsers!


13 posted on 01/25/2007 2:33:30 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("It's our humility which makes us great." -- Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers)
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To: XeniaSt

Thank you so very much for your insights, XeniaSt!


14 posted on 01/25/2007 7:39:16 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mad Dawg

LOLOL! I'm hoping you'll have some comments for us!


15 posted on 01/25/2007 7:39:47 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended?

Who hath gathered the wind in his fists? Who hath bound the waters in his garment?

Who hath established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou knowest?

b'shem Yah'shua

16 posted on 01/25/2007 9:02:52 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHVH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya’aqob.”Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt

Beautiful! Thank you!


17 posted on 01/25/2007 9:11:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

It is a very well set up thread and a putting on display of Christ, and of the gifts He has imparted to thee. Thank you for the ping. I have nothing to add but praise.


18 posted on 01/26/2007 2:18:15 AM PST by .30Carbine
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Thank you so much for your encouragements, dear sister in Christ!


19 posted on 01/26/2007 6:48:41 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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And Christ used the term Rock in two very important passages. If one misunderstands the Rock to mean something common or someone other than God, then it can lead to error.

Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. – Matt 7:24-25

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. – Matt 16:17-18

INDEED! INDEED! INDEED!

As an example, consider the following passage understanding that God is the Rock, that Jesus was smitten, that the Living Water is the Spirit (John 4, 7:38):

Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel. And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they tempted the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not?– Exodus 17:6-7

Or perhaps this one:

And the LORD said, Behold, [there is] a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. – Exodus 33:21-23

INDEED, INDEED, INDEED.

THE ROCK is used throughout Scripture. And, even in Revelation where the foundations of the New Jerusalem are precious rocks and even the gates living wrought rocks.

It seems that our ROCK is a rock . . . afficianado. Perhaps it's His penchant for solid foundations.

And He HIMSELF is THE MOST AND TRULY ONLY SOLID ETERNALLY SOLID FOUNDATION . . . for anything.

Given Peter's denial and looking at the waves and sinking . . . apart from the faith God imparted to Peter--strengthening his backbone . . . anything built on Peter; ANY TRUST of Peter at all--would have been fool hardy. Even walking in that faith, Paul still had to bat him into shape a bit here and there.

God throughout Scripture and history has used flawed, fallible critters called humans and His kids. But HE HAS MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that the only redeemable aspects that were useable were those He HIMSELF imiparted to, infected with, injected into said flawed critters.

AND, even with the God imparted, enlivened inner workings of Holy Spirit--the arm of flesh is STILL subject to error and nonsense. It is still not to be leaned on; still not to be glorified; still not to be trusted; still not to usurp; still not to be elevated. The arm of flesh is basically dangerous.

Oh, great edifices are still built by the flesh. Witness the TV ministries of some folks. More so, witness the great political edifices. Tumbleweeds build a great flashy fire full of sparks and fun. But it's over in a twinkling.

God is determined to have a people refined by the refiner's fire. And as demonstrated in the fiery furnace of old, Only THE ROCK will see us through; be with us in such fiery furnaces.

20 posted on 01/26/2007 7:55:28 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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