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To: AlbionGirl
Don't know if you remember or not, but when the zero tolerance thing was convened in Texas, governor Keating of Oklahoma was on some panel to help oversee and/or navigate the conference. He resigned after about a week or so. I would imagine that he did so because he didn't want his name linked with efforts that were so manifestly lacking.

Fact check. Keating was the chairman of the national committee. He was on it for a year, not a week. He resigned after he made a comment comparing some bishops' obfuscatory behavior to that of Mafiosi (I'm paraphrasing) and one bishop complained publicly.

That bishop's name would be ... Mahony.

39 posted on 05/14/2007 1:46:19 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion

I stand 51 weeks and motive corrected.


43 posted on 05/14/2007 2:05:57 PM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: Campion; AlbionGirl; Gamecock; HarleyD; blue-duncan; George W. Bush; OLD REGGIE; Revelation 911; ...
Here's a link to the original story from the "New York Times" on Keating's remark that compared the Roman hierarchy to the mafia.

Some Catholic officials act like Mafia,
says Church's pedo-priest investigator

In that same link, there's a follow-up story (both from June, 2003) via the "Worchester Telegram & Gazette" which says...

"Reaction was mixed yesterday to the resignation of Frank Keating as chairman of the National Catholic Review Board, the group charged with overseeing implementation of the church's policy against sexual abuse.

Mr. Keating himself defiantly took another swipe at some Roman Catholic bishops yesterday, defending his comments that compared church leaders to the mafia as he officially resigned as head of a panel keeping tabs on the prelates' sex abuse reforms.

"My remarks, which some bishops found offensive, were deadly accurate. I make no apology," the former Oklahoma governor wrote in his resignation letter to Bishop Wilton Gregory, president of the U.S. hierarchy.

"To resist grand jury subpoenas, to suppress the names of offending clerics, to deny, to obfuscate, to explain away; that is the model of a criminal organization, not my church."

However, Mr. Keating added that "most of America's bishops are fully supportive" of the reform campaign and "have stood up for virtue." He also praised Gregory personally.

"You are a model of the Good Shepherd," he said.

Timothy P. Staney of Worcester, who alleges he was sexually abused as a boy and teenager by a priest and religious education teacher, reacted sharply to the news of Mr. Keating's resignation, and his comparison of the church to the Mafia.

"I have personally seen an instruction from an official of the Vatican, Cardinal Ratzinger, which instructed all bishops of the Catholic Church worldwide to characterize the criminal sexual assault of minors along with violation of the sacraments of the church and thereafter to handle those crimes under the rubric of the pontifical secret," he said.

"While Gov. Keating may have been speaking metaphorically, the Ratzinger conduct is not a metaphor. It is criminal obstruction of justice on an international scale. At least the mafia doesn't claim to be acting in God's interests," Mr. Staney said..."


55 posted on 05/14/2007 7:12:19 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Campion
The problem went both ways.

JPII grew up in Poland, where the Communists used the charge of homosexuality against many a priest and pastor they wanted to silence. Most of the evidence hints that he saw many (but not all) of the cases that way. As trumped up charges. He was very hesitant to beleive any of them because of his prior life in Poland during the Cold War.

And the local bishops had a far greater hand in hiding what was going on. Which has made for some decent “fiction” books (Windswept House for example) that makes you wonder.

140 posted on 05/15/2007 2:18:08 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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