[AlbionGirl]

No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved...

I suppose that's one way to advance a see we're not really all that hung up on works argument. Could that be more extreme?

Though I think Vatican II advanced the idea that the Orthodox, the Jew, the Moslem, the Protestant, and those trying to be good people can be saved, the only thing I can say to that quote is my goodness!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I suppose that's one way to advance a 'see we're not really all that hung up on works' argument.

LOL. Yep, although there are "gentler" ways to assert that argument.