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To: Mad Dawg
I think, on the ground, it's important to remember, as a matter of political science, that the RCC is an eleemosynary institution. If anything, when you quit you have MORE worldly goods.

I don't understand what you mean.

So, I'm suggesting, FUNCTIONALLY it's like there's a charism given to the Church as a big, huge blob, and another charism given to the Successor of Peter as something like a pressure valve.

OK, I can see that comparison in its intent. It matches what I have been told elsewhere. Even so, I would respectfully disagree on the need for a pressure valve.


8,178 posted on 01/31/2007 12:13:13 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
First of all, I have no clue what I meant over 300 posts ago! I mean literally I know I meant something like the ancillary benefits of being a Catholic ain't much these days. But WHY I said that escapes me and on this dial-up connection I dread going to find out.

Even so, I would respectfully disagree on the need for a pressure valve.

I think the idea I had was that there are lots of currents, flows, pressures, urgings desires, blah blah blah. For example, the way some people talk, if we DON'T officially call Mary co-redemptrix, the price of oil will go up or some other terrible thing will happen.

So, if we can stipulate just for this example, that there might be a good reason (as opposed to a bad reason, like keeping oil cheap) to give that title to Mary, the vast, creaky, machinery of the Vatican, maybe even in some ways because it's a bureaucracy, can get all sort of methodical and say, "Our Holiness, we have a list of umpty-ump reasons why it's NOT a good idea, and umpty-ump plus one arguments in favor, so we recommend doing nothing at this time." A little plodding now and again is a great governor on whim disguised as inspiration.

But all that is introduction to asking if you would care to say more about the good and bad aspects of pressure valves.

8,235 posted on 01/31/2007 7:37:37 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("It's our humility which makes us great." -- Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers)
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