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To: Kolokotronis; FormerLib; xzins
I thought my comment in 7695 was quite clear as to what The Church and thus I believe.

Just answer yes or no. How hard is that?

I prefer clarity to agreement. So just answer yes or no:

"Do you believe the Father is the Son?

thank you.

7,718 posted on 01/27/2007 7:59:55 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; FormerLib; xzins

"Just answer yes or no. How hard is that?"

PM, simplistic, and apparently deficient, Protestant understanding of the Trinity doesn't get to set the terms of a debate which ended more than 1000 years before anyone ever heard of Protestantism.

Now you may prefer more clarity than God has graced us to possess thusfar. But that isn't the way it is. So we are left where we find ourselves. If we had a level of gnosis such as you seem to desire or if, lacking that, God were circumscribed by human understanding and experience, one might well be able to pose the question as you have, but God isn't, is He? Our understanding, by God's grace, is that God is One. This is why, when you say in the Creed about the Son, and I assume you believe it, you pray:

"One in essence with the Father through Whom all things were made...."


7,731 posted on 01/27/2007 8:11:28 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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