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To: kosta50

"You have been taught that Thetokos delivered thrugh a birth canal?"

How else? Has my education been deficient in some manner?


692 posted on 12/07/2006 7:48:08 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; xzins; kosta50; Pyro7480; sandyeggo; narses; NYer; Salvation
"You have been taught that Thetokos delivered through a birth canal?"
How else? Has my education been deficient in some manner?
692 posted on 12/07/2006 by Kolokotronis

If the Child Jesus were born in the "normal" way, why would Isaiah think that qualified as a miracle possible only to God? (See Isaiah 7:14)

See my posts# 676 & 687 above.

711 posted on 12/07/2006 8:47:55 PM PST by Dajjal (See my FR homepage for new essay about Ahmadinejad.)
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To: Kolokotronis
How else?

Well, the Incarnation was certainly not the "usual" way of conception. Why would the Birth be?

I was referring to St. John of Damascus who says (Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith) that Christ "passed through" the Virgin Mary, "keeping her womb closed," coming through this "Gate" without injuring "her seal."

In other words, He passed though the unopened canal the way He entered the room without opening the door. The movie subject of this thread shows Mary in labor pains.

Maybe you missed the preceding discussions. Some of them hinted as a carnal (natural) conception with the divine "seed," as much as the movie suggests natural birth. Christ was neither "conceived" nor born the "natural way." Both are miracles and paradoxes.

717 posted on 12/07/2006 9:00:41 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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[Kosta:] "You have been taught that Thetokos delivered through a birth canal?"

How else? Has my education been deficient in some manner?


945 posted on 12/09/2006 3:26:14 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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