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To: HarleyD; wagglebee; Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; adiaireton8; xzins; P-Marlowe

Luther and Calvin are mere men, and they were still processing the Reformation of the Church. At the time they were more concerned with primary doctrines like justification and salvation.

The perpetual virginity is not necessary from the text, but it a while before the Reformation got around to it.


661 posted on 12/07/2006 5:53:34 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins; HarleyD; wagglebee; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; adiaireton8; P-Marlowe; annalex; kosta50; ...

"Luther and Calvin are mere men, and they were still processing the Reformation of the Church. At the time they were more concerned with primary doctrines like justification and salvation.The perpetual virginity is not necessary from the text, but it a while before the Reformation got around to it."

Fair answer; my understanding has always been that Protestantism has with varying speed at various times over the past 500 years rejected much of what The Church dogmatized in the 7 Ecumenical Councils. It is for this reason, primarily, that neither Orthodoxy nor the Latin Church consider Protestant assemblies strictly speaking to be true churches, except perhaps for some Lutherans and some Orthodox Churches argue that Anglicanism, at least at one time, qualified.

What other canons of the Ecumenical Councils of The Church do Protestants reject and who decided to reject them?


665 posted on 12/07/2006 6:02:50 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: xzins; wagglebee; Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; adiaireton8; P-Marlowe
The perpetual virginity is not necessary from the text, but it a while before the Reformation got around to it.

I agree. Actual, as a Baptist, there are several minor things with Luther and Calvin I would disagree with. I think these were carry overs from their Catholic days (like the perpetual virginity of Mary). Whether they actually believed it, I'm not sure but I don't think it was high on the priority list and, given the times and men, I don't think they wished to discuss it.

725 posted on 12/08/2006 2:27:40 AM PST by HarleyD
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