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To: Kolokotronis
You do good when you type fast. I'm beginning to get the flavor. This is very good. Who's the big guy to read on this? (By "this" I guess I mean "sin, death, atonement in Orthodox Thought 101")

Okay, what about what I was calling the "Jesus Stomps the Devil" notion of the atonement. IC XC NIKA is an early graffito somewhere or other and I htink I may hav lost or given away or be too lazy to go find my copy of the Acts of Pilate, and I don't know much about the text, But SOMEBODY was thinking that Jesus went to Hell and tore up the pea-patch. I don't have any other sources for that opinion (except Aslan killing the White Witch -- and somehow that doesn't strike me as ancient).

Any thoughts?

5,506 posted on 01/12/2007 5:27:29 PM PST by Mad Dawg ('Shut up,' he explained.)
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To: Mad Dawg

"You do good when you type fast. I'm beginning to get the flavor. This is very good. Who's the big guy to read on this? (By "this" I guess I mean "sin, death, atonement in Orthodox Thought 101")"

Generally read the Cappadocian Fathers, +Symeon the new Theologian, +John of Damascus and of course +John Chrysostomos.

The "graffito" you mention is on the front of most Orthodox altar tables and is stamped into the leavened loaf we use for the consecration at the Divine Liturgy.

The "stomping" story you mention is from +john Chrysostomos' Pascal Sermon which is read at every Paschal resurrection Divine Liturgy in Orthodoxy. It is also graphically illustrated in the icon of the Resurrection.


5,541 posted on 01/12/2007 6:48:49 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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